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post #556 of 569 (permalink) Old 10-18-2016, 09:18 AM
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Re: Complain to Steve about the JEM/UV LINEUP here (no long winded rants elsewhere)

A Vai 7 string is going to be whatever Steve says it is, not what anybody else does. And of course he first reaches for Bruno, he's been playing it for almost 30 years.

The pyramids, came from the JEM, just as the dots came from the 550, as did the basswood. There is nothing that is only UV except the pickups.....
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I get the idea of making the JEM7V into a 7-string for the concept and for something different. However, it is NOT a Universe first and foremost - which is what the Vai signature model 7 has always been. Secondly, it is NOT a guitar that Steve himself uses for his 7-string when he reaches for one. He will grab his FTLOG burnt MC time and time again. Which only proves my point, that the originals are the true backbone of the line up, and that the new creation so are merely ploys and spin-off ideas trying to imitate and follow in the originals footsteps. If I wanted a JEM, I would buy a JEM. Why would or should I have to buy a JEM7V7, when I want what it's trying to be but isn't - a Universe??? It's not even close to a Universe - different body wood, additional routes that a UV doesn't have, different pickups, gold hardware which looks like total hell after a while when it fades, vine inlay instead of the traditional disappearing pyramids...
Perhaps the JEM7V7WH is not for you.
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So what could one expect to see and pay for as close to mint as possible 777GR now a days? Might want to make that a 2017 resolution if it's not unreasonable...
UV777GRs have been selling for anything between 3500 and 4500 US dollars in the last year...
That's what the trend has been , online at least.
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I feel like I have been in a deep sleep and suddenly woke:


Glancing through the 2017 catalogue I notice the Japan JEM's had EDGE trems on, since when? Vai uses the LoPro Edge because he dislikes having the fine tuners close to his palm. So why has Ibanez adopted the "cheaper" trem? Looking back through the catalogue except a brief affair with the EdgePro Vai's JEMs both production an live have the LoPro Edge....


Only Satriani likes the original Edge and has consistently used that for decades. So it seems yet again Ibanez are moving the JEM flagship further away from what Vai actually uses. So his once true claim he could walk into any music shop take a JEM off the wall and gig with it is no longer true.


First we lost the ebony fingerboard, now the trem, then there was the vastly over priced farce that was the "bad horsie" JEM - a slightly modified 7DBK with a different top and paint which I cynically predicted would become the least collectible JEM...and now we have the "Premium" JEMs with only the 70V not having the Edge Zero II trem!!!



What is going on with Ibanez? There filling the fingerboards with weird woods like panga panga, cheap rosewood copies like baked maple, while Jackson/ESP/Schecter are producing JEM/RG550 (or should I say 655?) style guitars for less money with commonly ebony fingerboards proper floyd rose trems and even sustainers, yet Ibanez seems to be going backwards even the RG550 reissues don't have any real draw as better sounding old Rg550s can be bought for much less!


Even the signature artists number is shrinking and slowly more "less famous" people are getting "signature" guitars that are basically slightly modified S series and RG guitars.


Is this the end of the innovative Ibanez JEM/signature ranges? Even Kikos signature lost its scalloped frets..!



Ibanez HAD always been the only guitar company to sell a unique item from the artists design it was left too Jackson/Fender/Gibson et al to take a standard model change the pickups put the artists signature on the headstock and charge 3 times the price, maybe I should just go back to sleep and hope it is all just a bad dream...
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Maybe you're still a bit groggy. Steve has been using an Edge on his main players for years.

You must forget every JEM had an EDGE before 1991.

Every manufacturer has had to find alternative to rosewood on several models because of the CITES ban
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Here is my gripe: why is the JEM7VWH the longest running model? Or am I wrong? Is it only because Steve's main performance guitars are EVO and FLO and FLO II?

Have I mentioned that I hate gold hardware?

It also bothers me that part of Steve's motivation for creating the 7VWH was "wanting a more traditional look" (or something along those lines). WHAT?! You are Steve Vai! Pink, Yellow, Green, Eyeballs, Flames, Hearts! You put stickers all over your Stratocaster! You painted your cherryburst Charvel Slime Green! Traditional? When has Steve Vai ever been Traditional?

Rants/Gripes over...
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I was soooooooo stoked when i was able to finally order the dream guitar i had wanted since i had started playing..
it finally arrived and noticed WTF its a rosewood fretboard.. apparently i got the model right after they quit making them with the ebony boards...
and yeah for the 3k price tag they STILL have on them, you think they would go back to that, or at least put a sustainer in it now standard, but no updates to the actual guitar itself for a long time.. its a killer axe but it does need to come down in price a bit
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I feel like I have been in a deep sleep and suddenly woke:


Glancing through the 2017 catalogue I notice the Japan JEM's had EDGE trems on, since when? Vai uses the LoPro Edge because he dislikes having the fine tuners close to his palm. So why has Ibanez adopted the "cheaper" trem? Looking back through the catalogue except a brief affair with the EdgePro Vai's JEMs both production an live have the LoPro Edge....


Only Satriani likes the original Edge and has consistently used that for decades. So it seems yet again Ibanez are moving the JEM flagship further away from what Vai actually uses. So his once true claim he could walk into any music shop take a JEM off the wall and gig with it is no longer true.


First we lost the ebony fingerboard, now the trem, then there was the vastly over priced farce that was the "bad horsie" JEM - a slightly modified 7DBK with a different top and paint which I cynically predicted would become the least collectible JEM...and now we have the "Premium" JEMs with only the 70V not having the Edge Zero II trem!!!



What is going on with Ibanez? There filling the fingerboards with weird woods like panga panga, cheap rosewood copies like baked maple, while Jackson/ESP/Schecter are producing JEM/RG550 (or should I say 655?) style guitars for less money with commonly ebony fingerboards proper floyd rose trems and even sustainers, yet Ibanez seems to be going backwards even the RG550 reissues don't have any real draw as better sounding old Rg550s can be bought for much less!


Even the signature artists number is shrinking and slowly more "less famous" people are getting "signature" guitars that are basically slightly modified S series and RG guitars.


Is this the end of the innovative Ibanez JEM/signature ranges? Even Kikos signature lost its scalloped frets..! Pnr Status TextNow VPN



Ibanez HAD always been the only guitar company to sell a unique item from the artists design it was left too Jackson/Fender/Gibson et al to take a standard model change the pickups put the artists signature on the headstock and charge 3 times the price, maybe I should just go back to sleep and hope it is all just a bad dream...
very interesting that exactly what i was search
thank you bro for sharing

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Hi, I recently bought a "Woodie" after mistakenly trading in my Blue Floral that I had owned, played and loved for years. I wish I had it back. The Woodie seems like a lesser guitar even though it has the latest line of Vai pickups(Dark matter). The sound is okay, but seems kind of muddy. The high E keeps slipping off the fingerboard even though I had it professionally set up. I never had anything like the same issues with the Blue Floral. The way it's set up now, the tremolo arm hits the volume knob. I sound whiny even to myself. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Okay, I got the trem set right. The high E seems to be stable. I tuned it up and locked it down. Started playing and.....boom, out of tune again. And not subtly out of tune, the low E jumped quite a bit higher. Unlocked it, got it tuned, locked it down and....bam, out of tune again. has anyone else had problems like this?
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I messed with it for a couple of hours today while waiting for the Superbowl. Low and behold I think I got all the issues worked out! I played for an hour or so and it sounded great, stayed in tune with dive bombs and pull ups. Never mind all the crap I wrote before...it sounds great!
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What was the issue?
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Premium Jem with Sustainiac please
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