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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 12-03-2002, 05:17 AM Thread Starter
 
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Costum 555 vs 7VWH

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I'm planning to buy a Jem555 and costumize it with a new trem (lo pro edge of course and maybe scaloped frets. My question is, after the mod, how will the 555 play in comparision to a 7VWH? Since i dont have the $ to buy a VWH,(the Jem7's are way to overpriced here in the EU) and since there are no used ones around, it seems like the best option for me...
I'd very much like some comment on my thoughts here;D
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post #2 of 29 (permalink) Old 12-03-2002, 05:40 AM
 
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Where in EU do you live?
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right here in holland
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Right before I bought my Jem 7, I had the same idea. So I kinda shopped around in all the guitar shops I could find in Paris. ALL the salesguys told me the same thing: "if you wanna mod a Jem555 to get it closer to the Jem 7, you better buy a higher end RG which actually already has the lo pro edge and just change the PUs."
Cost wise, a higher end RG like the RG 550EX sells somewhere around 1000 euros, two hum+1 single Di Marzio Evos will cost you around 400 euros max. So you're basically in for 1400 euros
If you get a Jem 555 and mod it, you'll already be paying some 1200/1300 euros for it, add another 400 euros for the lo pro and you have your guitar at 1600/1700 euros.
Now...I understand that the wood quality is definitely not the same on the the higher end RGs and the Jem 555 (jem555 wood is said to be of poorer quality). We all know that the density and quality of wood matters, so...
But we still are left with the "looks" factor. If you want your guitar to have the monkey grip and the vine of life feature, then I think you know what you have to do!
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thanks for the info rabin! Out here in holland the jem555 only costs 1100 euros, with a trem price of 300. Altogether that makes 1400, which is still almost half the price of a JEM7. the difference with a solid RG stays about 200 euros, but im willing to pay that price for the best looking guitar ever made;D
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i have done some mods to my 555, mother or pearl truss rod cover, and back plates, gold tuners, lock nut and string tree, and gold Lo-Pro trem, the result is a great looking and great playing ( if you know how to set it up ) guitar. Its not a 7VWH, but then again, i dont have the luxury of the prices our American cousins afford , i would say go ahead and do it, i had an RG560, and to be honest, it didnt feel like a Jem, sure it had a real nice trem etc but it wasnt ... well ... i dunno. People bring the 555 down, but a guitar is only as good as the person playing it so ... go for it !! i am sure you wont be dissapointed, maybe i should dig out my digicam and post some pics
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hehe, im pretty much convinced by that post Could you please take a shot or two? im pretty anxious to see yours
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post #8 of 29 (permalink) Old 12-03-2002, 10:34 AM
 
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I've seen a Jem7VWH secondhand for 1500 euro's in Belgium. This is the best option. Look for a real secondhand instead of making a lookalike...
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That's definitly a good idea... "a real secondhand instead of making a lookalike"...
It could be expensive but in a way it worths it!
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post #10 of 29 (permalink) Old 12-04-2002, 12:45 AM
 
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Athlon, can you post some pics of your guitar?
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Now...I understand that the wood quality is definitely not the same on the the higher end RGs and the Jem 555 (jem555 wood is said to be of poorer quality). We all know that the density and quality of wood matters, so...

This isn't quite true, basswood is basswood is basswood, it all is very good, and it all sucks, what I mean is, it's a very consistent wood, and the Wood in the 555 and RG's is the same wood that's in a Jem. Where it's bad, is Basswood in itself is just not the greatest wood, it's got an even tone, and it's light, I believe the weight was a big factor in Steve's original choice and it allows for better guitar aerobatics.
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And ease of cutting?
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post #13 of 29 (permalink) Old 12-04-2002, 12:34 PM Thread Starter
 
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i think ill wait a bit with swapping tremolos, i gotta get me an edge 1!
I really hope it'll retrofit, otherwise id have to do even more routing
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wood that has dried 200 years is more stable and sounds better than new wood. I don't know if they do it with the cheap and the expensive Jem.

So the electronics are quite the same. If the body is the same wood, is it only the tremolo that makes the difference and the name difference?

Isn't the neck a different wood?
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yup, wood that has dried 200 years would be great, but almost all production guitars are kiln dried wood that if it's 6 months old you are lucky.
The only difference in the necks really is the inlay, still a maple neck with rosewood fingerboard, although I will admit the rosewood they choose for the 555 boards isn't as nice.

Basically, the only real difference between the 555 and the 7 Series is the inlay and trems. Also, quality Control, this is why some 555's are really good, and others suck. Korean quality control isn't as great, but basswood is basswood, in terms of cutting, Ibanez doesn't care, they have CNC machines that do everything.

One other point of interest, wood doesn't sound better with age, it sounds better with density. Totally dried wood gives a purer tone, but it's not the amount of drying time that creates that better tone, you could have a 5000 year old piece of wood (assuming it hasn't rotted awayLOL) and it could be a totally porous piece of crap, while a 4 month old kiln dried piece is solid, dense, and consistent, and will sound great.
Even PRS and those guys use kiln dried wood, there simply isn't enough time to let wood cure for hundreds of years. Most wood used in guitar manufacturing is about 1 year old.

But basswood will never sound like a denser wood no matter how long it's dried, it's a light wood, and always will be
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