Is a custom made JEM really a JEM? - Jemsite
Ibanez JEM, UV, JS & Other Signature Models For discussion of Ibanez JEM, Universe and JS (Satriani) guitars only.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 44 (permalink) Old 03-21-2003, 05:18 AM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Posts: 130
Is a custom made JEM really a JEM?

Just curious to what the view on the forum is on this? I have always strived for my dream guitars, and in that time have owned a Gibson Les Paul Standard, a Gibson Les Paul Classic, a Fender Strat, a Kramer, and Moon Custom Built LP Special, a couple of Ibanez's including a Pink (yeah I know...) JEM, a Peavey Wolfgang, and my current squeeze...



... a MusicMan Axis.

In all that time, a copy, no matter how good, wouldn't suffice. The dream is the real thing. And my current dream is an Ibanez JEM7VWH. Not to replace my Axis mind, as I love that guitar, but rather to have in addition. I can't imagine having a copy of one instead. But I notice that many folk here seem to love the idea of building their own Jem-a-like. Is that a common thing, or the desire of a few.
zerolight is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 44 (permalink) Old 03-21-2003, 07:11 AM
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Santiago Chile
Posts: 1,643
To answer the title question.....No, custom Jem copies are not Jems, period.
caprile is offline  
post #3 of 44 (permalink) Old 03-21-2003, 07:20 AM
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: London (UK) and Paris (FRA)
Posts: 221
For me (only, perhaps) a real jem :
- comes from the ibanez factory;
- use to be a jem but has been modified (cf the "burned jem" here : http://www.jemfest.com/mini/london/0...es/jemjam9.htm
- is a guitar that comes from one of those guys on top of this page (cf Simon "cerealk"'s guitar : http://www.jemfest.com/mini/london/030208/pages/02.htm (Simon I send you an email but you didn't answer it!!!) and has the same specification as a factory jem.
A jem must have a monkey grip, some lion claws, hsh configuration to be a jem.
That's my opinion only...
My dream guitar team looklike your's...
JS
jsdetrait is offline  
post #4 of 44 (permalink) Old 03-21-2003, 07:52 AM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Posts: 130
Quote:
Originally Posted by caprile
To answer the title question.....No, custom Jem copies are not Jems, period.
Yeah. Thats what I think too.
zerolight is offline  
post #5 of 44 (permalink) Old 03-21-2003, 09:48 AM
Moderator
 
cerealk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 2,431
My custom 'Jem' doesnt say Jem on it anywhere!!

It is an Ibanez Simon Wilkins model that happens to look like a blue swirled Jem77BMC

To be honest I really dont care!!
It is a piece of wood, painted by the Ibanez swirl artist ATD, with an Ibanez neck, Ibanez electronics, Ibanez hardware and pickguard, and Dimarzio pickups, even Ibanez screws everywhere! and it goes in an Ibanez case!!

Mine doesnt have the same spec as any factory jem as the bodywood is mahogany.

Steve Vai has Universe guitars with 'Jem' on the headstock...what are those?

Simon
ps Js-sorry I forgot to reply!!!
cerealk is offline  
post #6 of 44 (permalink) Old 03-21-2003, 10:49 AM
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 106
itīs like the strat copies that a lot of custom builders make

if it smells like a strat, its seem like a strat and weight like a strat

F*CK

IT IS A STRAT


apply the same for the jem
Tezifon is offline  
post #7 of 44 (permalink) Old 03-21-2003, 11:17 AM
EdE
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 112
Zero--
I have two of those MusicMan's but they have EVH on the headstock! Somehow they are not quite the same now ...
EdE is offline  
post #8 of 44 (permalink) Old 03-21-2003, 11:50 AM
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 69
Is a factory made JEM really a JEM? Ask that to Mr. Despagni
Karmann is offline  
post #9 of 44 (permalink) Old 03-21-2003, 01:20 PM
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Bellport Village - LI, NY
Posts: 659
Interesting replies. I agree for the most part. Copies would just be guitars with Jem mods. For example: Q-Tip is a brand name and trademark while other brands are just other cotton swabs. Same goes for Jello.

The UV comment is interesting, too. Perhaps when the concept first came about, it was originally going to be a 7-string version of the Jem. I never heard much discussed about that aspect of its origin. That's another topic itself, though.

Mike 777 Haug
mike777 is offline  
post #10 of 44 (permalink) Old 03-21-2003, 02:01 PM
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Canada
Posts: 4,215
You can call them JEMs until Ibanez gets pissy about the trade mark the way Fender did with the "Strat/Stratocaster" trade marks.

Then you'll have to cal lit an "offset double cutaway solidbody guitar with pointy horns, gaudy colours and superfluous body routing."
darren wilson is offline  
post #11 of 44 (permalink) Old 03-21-2003, 02:27 PM
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Santiago Chile
Posts: 1,643
Quote:
Originally Posted by darren wilson
You can call them JEMs until Ibanez gets pissy about the trade mark the way Fender did with the "Strat/Stratocaster" trade marks.

Then you'll have to cal lit an "offset double cutaway solidbody guitar with pointy horns, gaudy colours and superfluous body routing."
or you can call them 'jem copies'

I find funny how the copies are named as if they were Ibanez models.....like Jem77BMC (Sorry to point, Simon, just the first that came to mind )
caprile is offline  
post #12 of 44 (permalink) Old 03-21-2003, 02:32 PM
Moderator
 
cerealk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 2,431
Quote:
Originally Posted by caprile
I find funny how the copies are named as if they were Ibanez models.....like Jem77BMC (Sorry to point, Simon, just the first that came to mind )
LOL
I thought I would classify it "officially" ....sort of... LOL
cerealk is offline  
post #13 of 44 (permalink) Old 03-21-2003, 02:32 PM
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Carlisle PA
Posts: 178
"I believe" only an Ibanez JEM is a JEM....but, if as a guitarist, you have different needs (scale lengeth, neck width, swirl, etc) then a custom jem would fit you better, and therefore, it would be a much more useful guitar. If you are going to "borrow attributes" from another guitar....what better place to start than the JEM/UV......thats what I did..... might as well steal the best ideas you can! (most of the licks I play are stolen too!!)
ATDVSBL is offline  
post #14 of 44 (permalink) Old 03-21-2003, 02:51 PM
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 599
I would say, there is no doubt if its not an true Ibanez Jem then its NOT a Jem. No matter how perfectly made to specs a copy is, it'll never be a true Jem.

That said, I wouldn't put down a Jem copy. I think it is very possible to have a copy be better than the actual.
BrianH is offline  
post #15 of 44 (permalink) Old 03-21-2003, 03:21 PM
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Richmond, Kentucky
Posts: 3,339
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianH
I would say, there is no doubt if its not an true Ibanez Jem then its NOT a Jem. No matter how perfectly made to specs a copy is, it'll never be a true Jem.

That said, I wouldn't put down a Jem copy. I think it is very possible to have a copy be better than the actual.
lol. So what your saying is evo isnt a real jem?
sniperfrommars1 is offline  
Reply

Tags
custom guitar , custom jem , custom jem blue multicolour , custom shop , darren wilson , dimarzio pickup , dimarzio pickups , double cutaway , fender strat , gibson les paul , gibson les paul classic , gibson les paul standard , ibanez guitars , ibanez jem , ibanez models , ibanez neck , jem blue multicolour , les paul , les paul classic , les paul standard , monkey grip , peavey wolfgang , squier strat , steve vai , swirled jem

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Jemsite forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address

IMPORTANT: You will be required to activate your account so please ensure that your email address is correct.

If you do not receive your activation check your spam folder before using the CONTACT US form (at the bottom right of each page).



Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fs/FT custom made jem stevencarpenter666 Classified Ads: Guitars and Gear 1 09-22-2012 11:02 PM
Ibanez S 'custom made' ID help.. guitz All Other Guitars (including Prestige) 13 11-01-2011 05:25 PM
Has anybody ever made a custom floral jem? mooro Ibanez JEM, UV, JS & Other Signature Models 16 02-26-2010 05:12 AM
suggestions for my to-be-made custom made 7 string guitar? ninelives1980 All Other Guitars (including Prestige) 7 05-06-2005 02:48 PM
JEM/UV vs. Custom-made - also, FP fabric??? ns9 Ibanez JEM, UV, JS & Other Signature Models 10 03-06-2002 01:00 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome