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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 05-24-2017, 03:27 PM Thread Starter
 
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Dark lines in Jem777 LNG 30th fretboard

Hi chaps,

My Jem777 finally arrived this week, unlike my only other 2 maple fretboard guitars this one has half a dozen dark lines running in the direction of the grain (but between the grain lines), only short but fairly obvious. Just wondering if these are filler put in to cover cracks, or totally natural? Doesn't affect the guitar in any way but was thinking about future resale value if these are 'not desirable' by collectors! p.s. its not for sale for 50!



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Re: Dark lines in Jem777 LNG 30th fretboard

I've noticed this on a lot of these. This is normal for maple, but in general I think they they typically selected pieces for the fretboard that were free of these lines. I rejected the first SK I had the option to buy because the board had several lines like this. The one I ended up getting has a single noticeable line near the pyramid at the 19th fret.
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They're completely natural mineral lines. It's quite OK if a customer prefers not to have and passes, but there's no way I'd reject an otherwise completely good guitar because of them. There are too many other reason I have to reject them to worry about something natural.

Now if it's 2mm wide by 10cm long, yes, I'm rejecting.
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Ah that's cool! So long as they are natural and normal then I'm a happy man. Many thanks Rich.
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Re: Dark lines in Jem777 LNG 30th fretboard

good time for ecology-101. these are natural in the annual growth rings of the maple tree seen in quarter sawn wood

https://www.theforestacademy.com/tre...-growth-rings/

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Must be time for guitars 101.

No, they're not.

The mineral spots may be in the growth ring, but they are not "the" growth ring. The growth ring is just "grain" He's talking about the specific mineral spots [which could be sap also] within the grain.
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No need, if it was the growth rings they would be as long as the growth rings, and with every grown ring, not just a small spot here or there... And every maple fretboard would have them, which is far from the truth.
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You are aware he's talking about the little brown spots, not the grain lines or the 1/4 sawn apex lines?
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Well at least we're getting all quartersawn boards. My original LNG had a flat sawn board.
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No, there are very few showing radial apex lines. Much less what you want, [if you want 1/4 sawn on the board] and that's even full width radial lines, those are unicorns. Not like this board where you have a 1/2" strip down the edge.

And it's 1/4 sawn neck you want, board if you like the dazzling grain, but it's about the neck wood, not board. And you see a good percentage of radial grain in these lam necks, but it's also rare to get even radial grain on all 3 pieces that match each other.
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Re: Dark lines in Jem777 LNG 30th fretboard

My old RG3770DX had those lines and they were absolutely gorgeous. You should be happy getting free figured fingerboard wood, if it had been flame maple, Ibanez would've charged an extra 1000 bucks.
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Re: Dark lines in Jem777 LNG 30th fretboard

My Jem 777 30th DY has 3 of this lines and a 4th one on the side of the fret board

I didn't even notice them until I read this post and went looking for them.
Personally it doesn't bother me. They clearly look to be part of the details of the wood rather than being some sort of imperfection, which isn't the case. The colour is also not as saturated so they don't really stand out in a bad way either, but rather blend and are not noticeable when playing, unless you are actually looking for them up close.
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No, there are very few showing radial apex lines. Much less what you want, [if you want 1/4 sawn on the board] and that's even full width radial lines, those are unicorns. Not like this board where you have a 1/2" strip down the edge.

And it's 1/4 sawn neck you want, board if you like the dazzling grain, but it's about the neck wood, not board. And you see a good percentage of radial grain in these lam necks, but it's also rare to get even radial grain on all 3 pieces that match each other.
The originals that passed through my hands, for comparison.

LNG #355. Not the prettiest board or neck.





First '88 SK I had (sebastian has this guitar now). Board had really nice, clean grain but there were some wear through spots. Neck was definitely not quartersawn.





Second '88 SK. Nice board on this one, no mineral streaks. Grain was a tiny bit uneven. Neck was reasonably well quartersawn.







Going through a bunch of old pics, it seems a good number of them have nicely quartersawn necks.

Some of the ugliest flat sawn necks I've seen.





I did notice that once they went to multi-piece necks, there was way less emphasis on quartersawn. Usually the center stripe is, but the side pieces are not. Best one I've had where all three pieces looked nice. 3-piece on an '02 RG2120K-KB.



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