I wasn't exactly sure if this post belongs here but I figured since all you apparently like steve vai you might know a bit about this..

But in the Crossroads when Steve plays that fast Paganini part. What caprice is it from? I thought it was 24 or 15.... but i was wrong.

It's a variation on Paganini's 5th caprice.
Good tune:biggrin:
Alden

so if I wanted to learn Eugenes Trick Bag should I learn that first?

Not necessarily but it's worth learning anyway as it is a beautiful piece of music. I learnt Eugene's Trick Bag first and then searched out Paganini's 5th caprice and learnt that.

I heard a classical guitar player do Paganini's Capricio no. 5 once (i can't remember who it was), and it made my jaw hit the floor. It was about twice the tempo as the version Vai played in Crossroads.

if you're into that song, you should find a copy of Vai Live In Korea from the Firegarden tour. *On it, he and Mike Keneally play that song

Elliot Fisk played the classical guitar version go check it out, fingers and nylon string! SHRED MAN SHRED!


I really recommend learning Eugene's Trick Bag it has all the essential techniques that a guitarist should use in a SHRED/Rock context. Very nice piece of music, strive for seamlessness when learning it. Vai really knows how to make everything sound so fluid, he's by far one of the cleanest pickers ever.

Go learn it!!!!

Chris.

Is 'Eugene's Trick Bag' a song? I always though it was some kind of guitar lessons/techniques book :loco: .

OH weeeee, another dot. Didn't notice that...

Eugene's Trick Bag is a variation on pag's 5th that features in the ending duel from the "Crossroads" film.

BTW, Jason Becker also does a fine acoustic version.

Steve

yes, it is indeed the 5th. i like it but i really prefer caprice 24. Paganini's finest work to me!! very difficult piece. i stillc ant play it all the way through w/o looking at the notes!!

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http://www.tabrobot.com/



(Edited by vwall at 9:42 pm on April 25, 2001)

Is Eugenes Trickbag available on any albums? I've learned it from the tabs, but I expect that I'm playing it a lot slower than it's supposed to be played.

/B

It was availble on NAPSTER but after all the hassle they have had I dont't know if it still is but if not I'm sure one of the other MP3 siites will have it

Chris,you must be kidding!!
Vai's alternate picking is ok at best.

You want clean picking,listen to Paul Gilbert,Vinnie Moore,Yngwie Malmsteen,John Petrucci.......

Now these guys can pick......any of them would be able to play eugenes trickbag at twice the speed Vai plays it.(Ok maybe not twice but you know what I mean)

Vai's technique is really not all its hyped up to be.He's got good but not great technique.

(Edited by rosskoss at 7:10 am on April 27, 2001)

You don't have to shred at 240+bpm to be a great musician. And Vai is a great musician, hands down. By the way, I think his playing style is incredible.

Oliver