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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 06-04-2006, 04:11 PM Thread Starter
 
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EVO's and Pinch Harmonics

I recently got a JEM7VWH and I've discovered that some pinch harmonics on the third string, are hard to get and fade out quickly. When I get a pinch harmonic on the 9th or 14th fret of the G string and use vibrato, the harmonic fades away. Is this just how EVOs are?, because I have EMG-HZ pickups in my Jackson and pinch harmonics are extremely easy to get and don't fade away quickly. Why are pinch harmonics crappy only on the third string?
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I recently got a JEM7VWH and I've discovered that some pinch harmonics on the third string, are hard to get and fade out quickly. When I get a pinch harmonic on the 9th or 14th fret of the G string and use vibrato, the harmonic fades away. Is this just how EVOs are?, because I have EMG-HZ pickups in my Jackson and pinch harmonics are extremely easy to get and don't fade away quickly. Why are pinch harmonics crappy only on the third string?
+1 - happens to me too
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Re: EVO's and Pinch Harmonics

Is that just normal, or is it something like a truss rod adjustment? Because it's sorta annoying
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Have you tried lowering the pickup a bit? If the pickup is too close to the strings, the pickup's magnetic field can actually dampen the string's natural vibration and affect sustain. A pinch harmonic doesn't vibrate the string that much to begin with.
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Yes actually, I did try that. It seems like it helped a little bit, but the problem is still there.
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Re: EVO's and Pinch Harmonics

yea, strangely, I get much better sustained harmonics from the top E string than I do from the G-string

pretty strange cos every other guitar I have is the opposite...
in short, I dont know what causes it
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Re: EVO's and Pinch Harmonics

My Evo has pinch harmonics out the a$$ (couldnt resist saying that)

Are you still on the same set of strings that came w/ the guitar? Perhaps the string is at fault. A new set might clear it up.

It's just a suggestion, Ive yet to be dissapointed w/ evo, i get my best PHs at the 4th fret on the 3rd string(or maybe it's just the one i enjoy the most).
Although I enjoy them all PHs rule.
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Re: EVO's and Pinch Harmonics

I lowered and raised the pickup over and over and I finally solved the problem. I'm sure after I perfect the intonation on that string that it will help even more. The EVOs are awesome pickups. The pinch harmonics sound so tasty! Thanks for all of your advice everyone.
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Re: EVO's and Pinch Harmonics

I think this is down to player technique, when i got my 1550 i found i had the same problem, sorted it now though.
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Re: EVO's and Pinch Harmonics

Most of the time it's the rest of your stuff. Digital modeling stuff (ie. POD) have a hard time with pinch harmonics. At least from my experience, I have a analog DS pad in front and it helps a ton.
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Most of the time it's the rest of your stuff. Digital modeling stuff (ie. POD) have a hard time with pinch harmonics. At least from my experience, I have a analog DS pad in front and it helps a ton.
i've never had any problem with pinch harmonics using digital modelers. must've been the setting you were using.
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Re: EVO's and Pinch Harmonics

When I have problems getting pinch harmonics, it's because I'm not doing it right. And then I focus on what I'm doing, do it right, and I know it
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Re: EVO's and Pinch Harmonics

+1... I am crap at doing PH's! Badly need to learn the correct technique.

If it's just happening on 1 string, try adjusting the individual pole pieces on the PUs. That might help a bit.
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i've never had any problem with pinch harmonics using digital modelers. must've been the setting you were using.
To each their own I guess, but I've noticed that digital stuff doesn't respond to PH as well as analog. It'll scream, but with less intensity and duration.
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Re: EVO's and Pinch Harmonics

I wonder if you could get Zakk Wylde to try out your jem. That would be the test, he can't help but do pinch harmonics.

Try adding a little more mids to your set up, and try again. EVOs are pretty scooped.
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