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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 03-26-2003, 09:49 AM Thread Starter
 
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Exact JS body clone -- is it possible for a good luthier?

I am wondering if a skilled and experienced luthier can make an exact (and I mean exact) copy of a JS body without using a copying CNC milling machine. Of course a factory-made JS body is provided to take all possible measurements. I'm dreaming of a JS-shaped custom guitar with the body made of a nicely figured maple top on a mahogany or basswood back.

Somebody from this forum once had a 7-string JS made by Harpers guitars, but judging from the pics (now on Rich's site), the result of this attempt was suboptimal and the body dimensions -- especially the "carvings" for the sexy curves and aerofoil shape -- didn't turn out as nicely as they should have (but maybe I just got the wrong impression).

Do you guys think it is feasible to make a really precise JS body clone by hand?
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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 03-26-2003, 11:56 AM
 
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A skilled luthier should be able to make just about anything. If a CNC router can carve one, i'm sure a luthier with a spoke shave and finger planes could do just as well, if not better.

The Jon Harper-built JS-7 had compromised contours because of the maple top. Had they made the maple half the thickness of the body, it would have been possible to carve all the contours properly and still maintain the integrity of the maple without cutting into the mahogany back.
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Hey Eddie

(Eddie Kolesar, of EKG fame, has been talking about doing a JS prototype for, oh, as long as i can remember now, before going into full production with 6 and 7 string JS styled bodies. I've never played one of his creations, but judging from the pictures I've seen, his body work and routing may actually be better than Ibanez's- it's immaculate. Follow the link up at the top of your screen, and if you have cash on hand and beg nicely, he might actually get to work on this one. I'd be the one to take the initial plunge, but, well, I'm in college and broke. Eddie, just wait, man... If i'm gainfully employed within the next year, you'll be hearing from me. )

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Here's the latest....

My brother, partner in EKG, is moving on. He is purchasing a house quite a distance away. THis could be good and bad. After weighing everything out, things may actually run a little smoother. I will have more space to work in and the shop will be layed out differently. What sucks is he is an incredible craftsman! I could count on ANY of his work and ideas. It's not that he was against making a JS, he was just so focused on the RG style bodies. Now, cross your fingers, maybe I can widdle away a proto ;-)
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It is possible....Will a luthier nail the EXACT shape...no...But they should be able to get close...A luthier would just need lots of good pictures or a actual js on hand to go by as a guide. Im somewhat of a luthier...Im not great and I havnt done all that much but, a JS doesnt seem to be hard to do...
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The Jon Harper-built JS-7 had compromised contours because of the maple top.
Okay, so in other words I'd have to go for a really thick piece of maple that is at the same time well figured and without any wood defects, right?

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A luthier would just need lots of good pictures or a actual js on hand to go by as a guide.
I would provide my trusty JS1 as a template, also for the neck dimensions which I prefer.
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I still have my cherry JS body that Jeremy started way back, and he did a pretty good job on getting the shape. It was all done by hand too! Only a little minor work left.
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If the luthier has the actual Js body in front of him, he can do a better job in making a good copy. I've made a few of my own bodies copying from a Js body that i have, but i didn't make them exactly like the Js body.....more like with a little variation that was to my liking. It still has the sexy curves the Js body has.
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