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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 06-28-2008, 05:49 PM Thread Starter
 
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Help Me Help Her...

I just got a JEM 777 Desert Yellow (traded my carvin 4x12 and a epoch les paul)
Now beware, the "person" that owned it before me did some AWFUL things to it...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...needshelp1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...mneedshelp.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...needshelp3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...needshelp2.jpg

I can manage to scrape some of the spray paint, but its hard and time consuming, is there any chemical that will help me remove the blue but keep the yellow and clear coat intact?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...msomework1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...emsomework.jpg

Also, since I don't have the budget for NOS parts, I'm going to use parts I have left over from other projects (chrome Taylor knobs, black switch tip, clear pickguard, chrome grover tuners, chrome straps) and hunt down a lo pro.

I got a gig today, so I can't work on her anymore... I really REALLY want to restore her!

They guy also gave me this for our trade
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../newguitar.jpg

any info on this?

Progress..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...m777helped.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...777helped1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...777helped2.jpg

These are some spots were the paint remover ate too much paint, or I could not get it out.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...777helped6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...777helped7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...777helped3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...777helped8.jpg

Someone carved their name into the guitar...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...777helped5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...777helped4.jpg

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post #2 of 19 (permalink) Old 06-28-2008, 06:03 PM
 
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Re: Help Me Help Her...

Oh man thats a sorry sight .

If your lucky and the DY paint is in tact you could try T cutting the more difficult areas .
Just take your time and you could get lucky.
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I dont know that you can do anything to save the clear coat and just have it as a normal DY again. I would consider a refinish, or just try to sand the blue off by hand with >400 grit sandpaper. Good luck! you may be able to just put a new finish on it if you get the blue off. Do NOT sand through any yellow unless you are refinishing. be very careful of that
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post #4 of 19 (permalink) Old 06-28-2008, 09:46 PM
 
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oh my god, the person who did that should be brought up on charges of abuse, neglect, barbarism, & sentenced to the gallows. That's so sad, makes me want to cry.

I'm glad to hear you rescued her & want to restore her to her former glory. Bless you. Take your time & do it right. I'd just have it refinished if I were you. I feel sick, I bet that guy eats puppies too.
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post #5 of 19 (permalink) Old 06-28-2008, 10:47 PM
 
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Thats sad. What are people thinking when they do that? Do they think "I shouldnt have done that". Thats rough, do your best man. Good luck....
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post #6 of 19 (permalink) Old 06-28-2008, 11:27 PM
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Re: Help Me Help Her...

I am not sure what lacquer thinner would do to the clear if left on, but it will take that spray paint right off. I would test under the trem springs or something, but I bet if you use the wipe on/off method, you will be fine.
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post #7 of 19 (permalink) Old 06-29-2008, 12:42 AM
 
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Hey, at least he didn't paint it black!
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Thats true. How much did you pay if you dont mind me asking?
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post #9 of 19 (permalink) Old 06-29-2008, 01:50 PM Thread Starter
 
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Thats true. How much did you pay if you dont mind me asking?
Thanks guys, I will take my time on this!

We did a trade, I traded my Carvin 4x12 cabinet and a Gibson / Baldwin epoch les paul for the Jem 777 DY and a old guitar I know nothing about http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../newguitar.jpg

I payed $200 for the Carvin, so I guess I payed $200 for the Jem and the other guitar..

I'll try the trem cavity today, I did some work on the neck too.
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Wow, looks like you're gonna have your hands full.
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Oh no dude...
Bring this "person" to the Police...
He must go to jail.
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post #12 of 19 (permalink) Old 06-29-2008, 08:23 PM Thread Starter
 
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Progress..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...m777helped.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...777helped1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...777helped2.jpg

These are some spots were the paint remover ate too much paint, or I could not get it out.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...777helped6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...777helped7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...777helped3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...777helped8.jpg

Someone carved their name into the guitar...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...777helped5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...777helped4.jpg

I also worked a bit on the neck, but I don't want to damage the inlays by scrubbing too hard.

Since the serial number was removed, is there anyway to track this?
?

What do you guys think?
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post #13 of 19 (permalink) Old 06-29-2008, 10:46 PM
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I see some fret ware also. I see that you also ate the finish. I would strip her down (wink wink) and start over. You can save her.
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I see some fret ware also. I see that you also ate the finish. I would strip her down (wink wink) and start over. You can save her.
Yeah, those spots were dings the spray paint covered up, so when I applied the paint remover, it sunk it.

I'll ask around, because I won't be able to afford a lo pro edge, tuning machines, locking nut clamps, locking nut shims, neck plate, string retainer, green knobs, green swtihc tip, strap pins and a refinsh....
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post #15 of 19 (permalink) Old 06-30-2008, 01:20 PM
 
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Re: Help Me Help Her...

Cool project...I wish I could find some Jems in this state.

If you can't afford a refinish, here's what I'd do..

Strip all of the paint off, take your time & use a small amount of paint stripper to remove the bulk of the desert yellow paint. Once you've got the first few layers off, brush the excess paint off and leave it to hang dry. Once it's dry, take your time sanding the rest off the paint off- use a fine grade paper and be careful not to sand any edges away. Some strippers are far too powerful and will not only remove the paint, but they'll damage the wood underneath- so make sure you take care when doing this. I have seen some severe cases where people have left the stripper on for too long, and as a result the wood has actually warped.

Once the body is prepared, why not get some Desert Yellow (or LNG or SK) woodstain made up? Once stained you could oil it and then give it a coat of satin to seal it?

All it'd cost you is the stain, sealer & your time....

Just an idea

Good luck,
Dave.
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