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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 12-08-2002, 10:02 AM Thread Starter
 
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HELP! My 1000BP is fretting out!

I just got my JS1000BP from guitar center, but I wanted to have a TremSetter installed because I wasn't used to a Floyd floating bridge (I palm a lot). HORRIBLE! It completely ruined the feel, the tuning, everything! Back to gc to take it out. Now I have the feel back, but I'm fretting out horribly when I try to bend on the 12 -18 fret High E notes halfway across the neck...

Can anyone recommend an Ibanez specialist in the Northern NJ/Rockland NY area who can set me up properly w/ the original low action and effortless bending I once had? Thanx!

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post #2 of 21 (permalink) Old 12-08-2002, 10:15 AM
 
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I would bring it back to GC. I don't know any shops/techs in your area but a good setup will cost you $75 and up. The guitar is new so I would have GC make it right do you don't have to spend extra dough.

I hope it works out for you.
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post #3 of 21 (permalink) Old 12-08-2002, 10:26 AM Thread Starter
 
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I've tried that, but...

GC has (as of yesterday) worked on my guitar twice already, and we even tried sanding/hammering the frets, but no luck. I was reading about Joe's setup on his site, and I'm convinced the tech isn't that familiar with the compound radius - He kept saying "that's why you're fretting out, because your hitting that radius." Isn't that WHY a compound radius is better?!? I need a new tech! And I've had the guitar now a full month, plus the tremsetter fiasco, so GC is not technically responsible!

I'm ready to ship my baby back to Ibanez in PA!
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post #4 of 21 (permalink) Old 12-08-2002, 11:00 AM
 
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Has the action changed? Did it get lower after fitting/removing the tremsetter? I'm thinking that they may have tightened the tremolo screws a bit and it's pulling the bridge back, lowering the action a bit and causing the notes to choke.
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post #5 of 21 (permalink) Old 12-08-2002, 01:03 PM Thread Starter
 
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It certainly seems that way

The guitar just doesn't play as fast or bend notes as effortlessly as before. I used to play Vai's "Elephant Gun" solo with no problems before, but ever since the TremFiasco, the strings are too high and I just can't play as fast. Plus playing Satriani solos really chews because he does radical string bends, while mine sound like strangled geese!

Is it possible to ship the guitar to either:

Ibanez?
Rich?
Some other worthy string-wizard?

This is such a great guitar (or was). I just want that playability back!
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This is a complete contradiction. If the action is now higher than it was before why would it be fretting out now when it wasn't before?
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This is a complete contradiction. If the action is now higher than it was before why would it be fretting out now when it wasn't before?
That I don't understand either. But the original pre-TremSetter action was effortless and nothing fretted out at all. Now, post-TremSetter, I had to raise the action because I'm fretting out. THAT is why I believe the tech at GC did something (to the Lo-Pro) that requires higher action to eliminate choking frets. I thought it might possibly be the truss rod?

Maybe the guitar's playability is just shot, and I'm gonna have to unload it! It is definite that the thrill is gone, and I'm no longer enjoying playing the thing - HELP!
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What are the measurements now? I wouldn't go below 2mm bass and 1.5mm trebble at the 22nd.
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post #9 of 21 (permalink) Old 12-09-2002, 02:11 PM
 
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It amazes me that people go out and buy these expensive and great in struments and dont have a clue about setting up a guitar.
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It amazes me that people go out and buy these expensive and great in struments and dont have a clue about setting up a guitar.
It amazes me that everyone driving a "Jaguer" knows how to completely take it apart and put it back together inside of their diamond-collared poodle's butt...There's a difference between a musician and a mechanic.

I've been playing for 22 years. This is my first Floyd guitar. It played great at first, but my ear could tell the notes were changing because of the way the gravity on the tremolo affected them. I wanted greater note stability - hence the TremSetter. And ever since taking that out, the G string buzzes, the strings don't feel responsive, and the high notes are fretting out. Excuse me for wanting to play an instrument that SHOULD play great, I figured I could get some constructive advice instead of pompous judgement...
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It amazes me that everyone driving a "Jaguer" knows how to completely take it apart and put it back together inside of their diamond-collared poodle's butt...There's a difference between a musician and a mechanic.
I could do that, but I killed the poodle and pawned the collar
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It amazes me that people go out and buy these expensive and great in struments and dont have a clue about setting up a guitar.


lol what a pathetic thing to say im sorry i know iave nothin 2 do with this but man it anois me when people do pointless stuff like that. coz of course u can do everythin lol
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post #13 of 21 (permalink) Old 12-12-2002, 02:36 PM
 
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To me its just like ok i have a guitar and i want to learn how to play it. Ok i got 2 screws here on the bridge i will turn them and see what happens. Nobody showed me how to string or set up a guitar it was just my love for the instrument that i experimented with how different adjustments on the guitar work. My statement was kind of out of line but I feel by the time i finally bought a thousand dollar guitar i knew how the guitar worked inside and out. It just amazes me to see somebody who just purchased a brandnew js 1000 and who also owns a computer cant figure out how to do this very simple stuff by themselves. If you have been playing guitar for 22 yrs and have to send your guitar to a specialist for a minor adjustment i dont think you deserve that expensive of a instrument. I know the guy was just looking for a little advice and that i should keep my bad comments to myself but i read so many questions like that on different forums that i just couldnt take it anymore. I hope you have the best of luck setting up your js and also think that you shouldnt be so scarecd to turn a few screws.
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post #14 of 21 (permalink) Old 12-13-2002, 07:04 AM
 
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i have 2 say i agree with most of what u just said.

i think that maybe its the simple fact that it is such an expesive guitar that inhibits you from turning a few screws i mean im always wary of doin stuff im not familar with to my axes.

i like u found out about the machanics of guitars simply coz i love em and its for that same reason that idont like messing with em when im not complety shure what 2 do

now im prett confident and after a few setups u normaly are
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post #15 of 21 (permalink) Old 12-16-2002, 03:59 PM
 
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Did you try adjusting the truss rod? If not the action, it must be the trust rod too tight.
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