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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-09-2010, 12:54 PM Thread Starter
 
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How do I have a 2004 Jem7VWH with a ebony board?

Hey guys I have had this guitar for over two years,and have noticed since day one that the board was much darker/black than any of my other Ibbies. I have a old Washburn with a Ebony board and they are a perfect match woodgrain and all. I just thought well its just the part of the rosewood tree they took it from. Anyway I had it at work,I work at a wood molding company . I was trying to get my boss to let me make a Jem program on our CNC machine.LOL Our lumber grader and part owner has 35yrs experiance looked at it and said so guitars are made out of maple and ebony,I said yes some but this one is rosewood on maple with a alder body. He says I dont know anything bout guitars but I can show ya that is not Rosewood but Ebony. We looked at four or five different types of Rosewood and there was none as dark as my neck, He said he could tell by the grain being smaller or tighter more than darkess as He figured they varnished the board anyway,which they dont. So oddly enuff few weeks later I had a JS1200 for sale and had pics of the Jem beside it on Photbucket. Two different people on the Jemsite asked if that was a Ebony board on the JEM. I am almost 100% convinced now, Evidentally someone was able to special order the ebony,or it was left over material from 2003,or it was made at last of 2003 and sold dated a 2004. Either way I just wanted to see if anyone here had a clue whats up? Really dont matter to me but It is one of those Ibanez mysteries to me. I will post a reply later with a link to the picture of it.I forgot to now. And see what you think.akjc1977
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Re: How do I have a 2004 Jem7VWH with a ebony board?

If it is ebony it's simply a replacement neck.
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It could be a replacement neck Rich, It is dated Fo4 . Here is a pic not the best but you can see the board.


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Re: How do I have a 2004 Jem7VWH with a ebony board?

The only necks they would have made w/ ebony [and I can't tell from that picture] after 2003 would be replacement necks.
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It is definately a authentic Ibanez neck cause I have had it off and all. So I dont know man,maybe it is a piece of Rosewood that is close enuff to fool everyone or maybe one of those Jappers grabbed the wrong blank of wood. It is a absolutely great playing/sounding guitar I will have it refretted when that time comes just to keep it the way it is. It has that awesome resonance that is just luck of the draw. I appreciate you looking I just wondered if anyone else has one similar.akjc1977
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I will take some more brighter pics Rich and send them to ya via email sometime,and let ya get a better look. I trust your judgement,and it is really irrellevant but just a question that pops into my head everytime I get it out to play. Jason
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Re: How do I have a 2004 Jem7VWH with a ebony board?

I think it's a dark rosewood.
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It is definately a authentic Ibanez neck cause I have had it off and all. So I dont know man,maybe it is a piece of Rosewood that is close enuff to fool everyone or maybe one of those Jappers grabbed the wrong blank of wood. It is a absolutely great playing/sounding guitar I will have it refretted when that time comes just to keep it the way it is. It has that awesome resonance that is just luck of the draw. I appreciate you looking I just wondered if anyone else has one similar.akjc1977
I think what Rich is saying is that if you have a 2004 neck with an ebony board, it would have been made to replace a broken neck from an earlier year, which I guess means it's possible your guitar could have been made and sold years earlier with a different neck. Perhaps the original owner trashed the neck, and in 2004 they had the neck replaced.
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Re: How do I have a 2004 Jem7VWH with a ebony board?

the 7vwh ebony i had,had much less grain than yours.looks to me like a very dark rosewood,but i wouldnt bet my life on it.
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Thats defintely rosewood. Ebony has a very closed grain, you can see the grain on that board, ususally Ebony is difficult to see the grain of. Its either very dark rosewood or someone has stained it.
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Re: How do I have a 2004 Jem7VWH with a ebony board?

Now that I've looked at the pics I agree, too much open grain for ebony.
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Re: How do I have a 2004 Jem7VWH with a ebony board?

Yeah, I agree too. That's rosewood over there, mate..
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Re: How do I have a 2004 Jem7VWH with a ebony board?

The particular combo of open grain and the reddish brown streaks near the scallops lead me to rosewood as well, but a better picture (light!) should help.

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Two different people on the Jemsite asked if that was a Ebony board on the JEM
That's the first question we are supposed to ask in the VWH's case

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He said he could tell by the grain being smaller or tighter more than darkess
There are ebony types with coloured streaks as well, so he's right about that not being a definitive marker.
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Re: How do I have a 2004 Jem7VWH with a ebony board?

It doesn't even look particularly dark compared to what I'm used to with my boards. Although that might just be the flash or somesuch thing, I guess.
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Re: How do I have a 2004 Jem7VWH with a ebony board?

rosewood. does look like ebony on first glance though!
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