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post #1 of 47 (permalink) Old 12-30-2010, 10:58 AM Thread Starter
 
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There I said it

It looks kinda cheap to me. Some say it's unique blah blah, but to me it's just messy. It's also an excellent way to cover any finish mistakes because you can never tell if something is intentional or not. Like modern art. Make a mess and somebody will call it art All other options are better to me: plain wood can be awesome, solid colors can look great, mirror finishes are cool and stained/figured wood is in a league of it's own.

Didn't wanna offend anyone, just expressing my opinion.

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post #2 of 47 (permalink) Old 12-30-2010, 11:00 AM
 
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Ditto that, plus they are just ugly.
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I would beg to differ in some instances. Like, for one, plain blue or baby blue on ANY guitar is just plain nasty....unless it's a blue or baby blue swirl....That looks sweet....
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...s/DSCF1969.jpg

I'm not a fan of purple either....but this one would have me owning a purple (swirled) guitar.
http://www.guitar-museum.com/uploads...03670565-1.jpg

And of course...You can't go wrong with a Uni swirled...especially this one (I think).
http://www.ibanezrules.com/namm/images/2010/003.JPG

To each his own I guess....I'm not a huge fan of swirls mind you. But correctly done they can be great.
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What I hate the most about the swirls is the price/limited production. It's simplistic, but comparing prices UV77REMC to a UV777BK, it's a paint job with a huge premium. I understand there's a Suggi factor for the REMC necks, but still. Basically, an extra $4700 (list) for the swirl and the nicer Suggi neck.
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Different strokes for different folks. I don't think you'll be offending anyone.

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stained/figured wood is in a league of it's own.
I've never really thought the stained figured wood looked anything other than like furniture. I've always seen it as a sort of crutch that folks can use when they're too old to get away with cool crazy finishes. YMM, of course, V.

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yeah, with figured tops there is a risk of it looking like a piece of furniture, like below. I though more about modern stained finishes, like j-customs or BFR musicmans.
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There I said it
You're not the only one. I like some of the reddish DNA's though.
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If cash isn't a problem, Im sure almost everyone would still buy swirls because they are different then any other finish. Just show it off to your friends and watch their mouths drop.
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The original MC swirl is in a league all it's own!

The PMC was a swirl I thought was neat because I like purple...

The DNA was an interesting one, with a nice inlay...

Out Of This Swirled swirls are as good as they get, because they actually made it an art form!

Having said all this I'm not a big fan of swirls either, I have to have color and vines!
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How to win friends and influence people on Jemsite.
Seriously, though, I remember drooling over the UVMC when it came out but now I'm not a huge fan these days. Loud solid colors on the other hand...
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I've never really thought the stained figured wood looked anything other than like furniture. I've always seen it as a sort of crutch that folks can use when they're too old to get away with cool crazy finishes. YMM, of course, V.
And the older I get, the more I understand it. There's a school of thought that if you're buying something made of wood...well...let's see the wood and put as little finish as possible between you and the wood.

It's all part and parcel of the vintage guitar craze, and it does lead to some pretty stupid stereotypes about "pointy" guitars, but there is some wisdom in it depending on what you're playing on the guitar.

Swirls are interesting in this regard because they are so popular as a DIY finish. There are guys who obsess over having the thinnest finish possible, preferably nitro, and when I see that I think "you know, I bet that other guy who's swirling basswood bodies in his garage probably has no idea about all that or couldn't care less". The differences are on opposing ends of such a wide spectrum, it's unreal.

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And the older I get, the more I understand it. There's a school of thought that if you're buying something made of wood...well...let's see the wood and put as little finish as possible between you and the wood.

It's all part and parcel of the vintage guitar craze, and it does lead to some pretty stupid stereotypes about "pointy" guitars, but there is some wisdom in it depending on what you're playing on the guitar.
I get the wood part, I'm a big fan of natural finish woods, especially things like the original Washburn N4s, but I'm not too keen on some of the AAAAA tops and triple stained finishes. As you said, if you're going to see the wood, let's see the wood
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Swirls are interesting in this regard because they are so popular as a DIY finish. There are guys who obsess over having the thinnest finish possible, preferably nitro, and when I see that I think "you know, I bet that other guy who's swirling basswood bodies in his garage probably has no idea about all that or couldn't care less". The differences are on opposing ends of such a wide spectrum, it's unreal.
Plus we should remember that even Ron Thorn has used swirls in the past, so it's not like even bespoke-tonehound type luthiers are completely against them
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The real question is why you felt a need to create a thread about this?
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Some swirls are really nice, but others are ugly. I like good swirls.
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