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post #1 of 38 (permalink) Old 05-23-2010, 11:38 AM Thread Starter
 
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JS with a maple neck = ibanez 442 R

just a heads up. all the talk about a JS with a maple neck and standard trem....

this has been done before. 1993 ibanez 442R radius. viper neck, 22 fret, 2 point standard trem, locking tuners, v6 s2 s3 pickups (HSS).

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Re: JS with a maple neck = ibanez 442 R

But it isn't a JS...
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Re: JS with a maple neck = ibanez 442 R

ibanez basically converted the radius series to the JS series. Face the facts man! LOL!
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Re: JS with a maple neck = ibanez 442 R

It doesn't have the same neck radius and smaller frets, which are key features of the JS line.
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Re: JS with a maple neck = ibanez 442 R

...... and the only reason the 93'R has the same body as a JS is because Joe changed the original R body significantly.
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Re: JS with a maple neck = ibanez 442 R

So...you started a thread to promote your for sale ad?
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Re: JS with a maple neck = ibanez 442 R

not necessarily..... i actually am interested in these differences.
you didnt mention the headstock angle. on the ultra's that is different. however on the vipers there is not a tilted headstock...

the R body is not significantly different besides the slightly neutered horns. are there other body differences?

the necks are not that different between the ultra and the JS at least to my hands...
what size frets are on the ultra neck? I know that they are 6105 on the JS.
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Re: JS with a maple neck = ibanez 442 R

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So...you started a thread to promote your for sale ad?
not really . i liked the thread about the maple neck JS with the SSS config that was posted a while back.

i found it interesting that there was not a whole lot of mention about the 542 or 442 radius series in that thread despite the desire by many for ibanez to make it....

while i understand it is not truly a JS because those two letters are not on the headstock and my hero satch doesnt get a cut of the sale proceeds, the radius series should not be ignored in this section due to the dramatic similarities between the two.

I love my radius, I even had satch autograph it, that one (my black 540RHHBK) will never leave me...

i just found out after owning the other that i am not a huge maple fingerboard fan.

i would however understand if this thread was either moved or deleted and i would not harbor any hard feelings over it. i love this site!
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Re: JS with a maple neck = ibanez 442 R

An R and JS are only similar on a cursory examination. They are very different from each other [even more so the 87'-90's where the bodies are vastly different]. If you find no difference between a JS neck and an Ultra then I don't know what to say, there's nothing even similar about them.
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Re: JS with a maple neck = ibanez 442 R

it never fails to astound me how some seem to over state the differences between extremely similar items....
I would say the differences between the JS and R series are much more like the differences between coke and pepsi.
Whilst some would seem to believe that they are more vastly different like between sprite and coke, i find that laughable at best.

I would bet that out of all of the reissues that ibanez has been putting out lately, the radius series wont be one of them due to the striking similarities to the JS series.
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Re: JS with a maple neck = ibanez 442 R

It never ceases to amaze me at how some are just blissfully ignorant to details that most players would immediately notice as vastly different.

If you can't tell the difference between Pepsi and Coke then you might as well drink that sewage, RC.

Comparing Pepsi to Sprite is like comparing guitars to piano's.

An 87' Radius is as close to a JPM as it is to a JS, if the JPM was 22 fret.

R - JS
Ultra D shape neck - JS PURE C SHAPE
430mm radius - 250mm radius
Jumbo frets - Medium would be generous
Scarf joint [2 piece] neck with truss rod under fretboard - pure 1 piece neck with rear routed truss.
In fact the only similarity is they're both 22 fret with rosewood fretboard.

JS body is 1/8" smaller in all dimension, the arm and belly contour are nearly 3 times as wide and slimmer, the lower cutaway is deeper for better upper fret access, and the horn is slimmer. Of course the control layout is different and the JS has the angled jack but who cares, right?

An R is heavy and clunky in comparison to the much more refined JS. If Ibanez chose to switch R body cuts to the JS because it was a much better design or because it was more prudent to only machine one body type for both series will never be known, but all R bodies were changed to JS profile in 91', after which time you could certainly argue more similarites, but not in the neck, ever.
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An R and JS are only similar on a cursory examination. They are very different from each other [even more so the 87'-90's where the bodies are vastly different]. If you find no difference between a JS neck and an Ultra then I don't know what to say, there's nothing even similar about them.
I agree 1000000000000000%
I have a '00 JS1000 and an '87 540RBB (blue burst) and I can say there are differences in the body outside of pickup config,. pickup selection 5 way vs minis etc.
I also had for many years, an '91 RT650 (has viper neck) and I can say the necks are different on a JS neck vs a viper neck.
A viper neck is 305mm radius and a JS neck is 240mm or 250mm depending on yr. That is absolutely a difference you can feel...
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Re: JS with a maple neck = ibanez 442 R

Was it Viper? I haven't had my R in a few years.
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Re: JS with a maple neck = ibanez 442 R

I always enjoy a Rich vs. Someone argument.
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I always enjoy a Rich vs. Someone argument.
1+, i need some popcorn!!
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