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JS New Out of Box - What to expect?

I am just curious as to how well a JS new out of box is for playability.

I don't know if my JS1CR30 will be setup for me or just shipped straight to me. There's no one here where I live that can do setups as nice as Rich. I am fairly comfortable doing truss adjustments and a little fine tuning here and there but not familiar with shimming or any of the other stuff.

I generally use D'addario 9's on my guitars with a low smooth action. Most guitars come with 9's on them from my experience.

So I am wondering how well setup a JS guitar out of the box is? Will it require a lot of tinkering or should it be pretty much get up go?

Thanks for any info you guys/gals can offer.

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Cant say any of mine needed any 'serious' work.... set the action to how you like it.... should be good to go.....
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I am just curious as to how well a JS new out of box is for playability.

There's no one here where I live that can do setups as nice as Rich.

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There's no one anywhere that can do setups like @Rich !
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Dont say that round Mike

There are a couple of guys here who do great setups, but they aren't Ibanez specific. I doubt your 1CR30 will need anything more than intonation/action... least you'd hope not!
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I'd be surprised if it needs anything other than minor tweaks, usually the frets could be polished better with Prestige Ibanez's (but that's only visual). When my 777 arrived late last year it needed a neck alignment, I needed to disconnect the backstop (since it's a piece of **** that ruins tuning stability and trem feel) and the frets needed a final last minute polish (maybe because they had been sat in a warehouse waiting for Rosewood CITES certificates to pass).
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I'd be surprised if it needs anything other than minor tweaks, usually the frets could be polished better with Prestige Ibanez's (but that's only visual). When my 777 arrived late last year it needed a neck alignment, I needed to disconnect the backstop (since it's a piece of **** that ruins tuning stability and trem feel) and the frets needed a final last minute polish (maybe because they had been sat in a warehouse waiting for Rosewood CITES certificates to pass).
the backstop when set up right helps tuning stability but yes it murders trem feel.
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the backstop when set up right helps tuning stability but yes it murders trem feel.
In my experience it makes tuning stability worse, since it goes from perfect to "suspect". My 94 Jem 7V has the 24 year old original (Lo-Pro Edge) trem with years of use on it and it never goes out of tune, the backstop setup with my 777 would always return a little sharp or flat. Since I gave up on the backstop with my 777 I've not got tuning issues, that said it still doesn't hold tune as well as the 7V, over time the high E goes flat... A bit like a slow puncture on a tyre, so long as you give it a little juice every week or so it won't bother you, but it's there. After a few weeks I have to unlock the nut and reset the microtuner.

Either way, not much use in the backstop even if I could get it to maintain stability it still ruins the trem feel.
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Well i will have to wait and see. i was speaking to an Ibanez distributor this evening about my order. Thinking my guitar would be here in May 2018 but sounds like it'll be more lik ein September 2018 I'll get it.

Quite the wait, but hopefully worth it in the end.
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In my experience it makes tuning stability worse, since it goes from perfect to "suspect". My 94 Jem 7V has the 24 year old original (Lo-Pro Edge) trem with years of use on it and it never goes out of tune, the backstop setup with my 777 would always return a little sharp or flat. Since I gave up on the backstop with my 777 I've not got tuning issues, that said it still doesn't hold tune as well as the 7V, over time the high E goes flat... A bit like a slow puncture on a tyre, so long as you give it a little juice every week or so it won't bother you, but it's there. After a few weeks I have to unlock the nut and reset the microtuner.

Either way, not much use in the backstop even if I could get it to maintain stability it still ruins the trem feel.
I have an 87 radius and I will keep watch for what you are saying. I had an 88 S with backstop. It's certainly not something I'm a big fan of but I feel like it did it's job but at a big sacrifice for how the trem feels and responds.
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Well i will have to wait and see. i was speaking to an Ibanez distributor this evening about my order. Thinking my guitar would be here in May 2018 but sounds like it'll be more lik ein September 2018 I'll get it.

Quite the wait, but hopefully worth it in the end.
How is the wait so long? I had a similar situation last year with my 777 though, I ordered it around late February/early March and I got the guitar around mid September. But that was due to issues with the Rosewood CITES certificates (despite it not having rosewood on it).
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How is the wait so long? I had a similar situation last year with my 777 though, I ordered it around late February/early March and I got the guitar around mid September. But that was due to issues with the Rosewood CITES certificates (despite it not having rosewood on it).
They are made in Fugijen, so I guess a production time has to be booked in, then allow for inspection, shipping, etc... I think May-July is fairly decent considering previous JS models have been August/September.
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I really don't know why. He (The Ibanez Distributor) was trying to explain it to me that the guitars have to be made that there are basically none in production right now until they get numbers in. originally I thought it was going to be May but thats when he gets something else, and they production around then. He said something about 2 shipments one in June/July and the other in August/Sept.

I really don't understand the process. Rich prolly has a better idea of whats going on there.

The distributor did say it's better I get the guitar in September as it's easier on the instruments being shipped from Japan to the US and so on as the environmental conditions(humidity) will vary greatly. Winter vs Summer warmer weather I guess. It makes sense but at the same time could be a load of malarkey.

I just keep hoping it'll come sooner rather than later.
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I really don't know why. He (The Ibanez Distributor) was trying to explain it to me that the guitars have to be made that there are basically none in production right now until they get numbers in. originally I thought it was going to be May but thats when he gets something else, and they production around then. He said something about 2 shipments one in June/July and the other in August/Sept.

I really don't understand the process. Rich prolly has a better idea of whats going on there.

The distributor did say it's better I get the guitar in September as it's easier on the instruments being shipped from Japan to the US and so on as the environmental conditions(humidity) will vary greatly. Winter vs Summer warmer weather I guess. It makes sense but at the same time could be a load of malarkey.

I just keep hoping it'll come sooner rather than later.
Yeah I dunno how they do it.... last year the 2480s arrived here in NZ about 3 weeks before Rich got his, every other year it was about a month later.... Im told my JS1CR30 will arrive in April, and the 2nd one coming here, late June.... so I dunno how they work it all out...Rich will have a better idea
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