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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 11-03-2014, 09:02 AM Thread Starter
 
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Jem 777 DY difference in color body-headstock

Hi Jem fanatics,

Recently bought a wonderful DY from a nice bloke in Ireland. She's a '91. The guy I bought it from bought the guitar from another Irish guy who bought the guitar from 'rock hard guitars' in the USA....(that site still has different pictures of the guitar in question if you google 'rock hard guitars jem 777 dy).

I took it apart and as far as I know it's all original (pickups, neck pocket stamps, tremolo, etc).

I'm very happy with the way the guitar looks and plays but I was just wondering about one thing : the body is of a much more darker yellow than the headstock. Both headstock and body are in very good shape, no chips, two tiny dings and both still very shiny.

So my question: is this common? Could the guitar be refinished? In my opion not because she also has the neck pockets cracks. Any opinions on this ? Similar experiences?

thx a lot!

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Re: Jem 777 DY difference in color body-headstock

First of all, congratulations ! I love this guitar.

What you mention is very weird, I've seen that guitar many times and I've never realized, but you are right, the body paint is definitely darker and I'd say different..

It probably has been repainted, probably was a DY neck and SK or VBK body (I don't think it was a LNG..). It also can be a complete original DY which has been repainted...
What is really interesting is that it has the typical stress crack where the neck and body meets...

When you took it apart, did you see any other color remain on the pocket?

If you want to take a look at mine and compare colors, here you are:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bkno65i80...WAlDs61na?dl=0
And in case you need more pictures or whatever to compare, just let me know..
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Re: Jem 777 DY difference in color body-headstock

Many DY's the clearcoat6 tones brown, some of them are terribly blotchy brown.
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@ alvaro: thx. I love the guitar also. She still looks like new altough she's 23 years old :-)
And no, in the neck pocket I only see a bright yellow color at the edges like i've seen on so many pictures from other members on this site.

So I guess Rich with all his experience will be right.
@ Rich: thx for your reply. Did you see many of those darker yellow ones? Are they of lesser value because of the discolouring?
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People are strange, I've seen bad blotchy browns sell high, probably because the buyer just thinks he's looking at a bad picture. I personally would pay extra for one with no toning.
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People are strange indeed....:-).

But like you said. Pictures can be deceiving. Buying online is always a little bit tricky even if the seller is an honest guy. And a good photographer can do miracles...

I'm curious where rock hard guitars got the Jem from. Maybe the original owner is a member of Jemsite?
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You're welcome Crowdman, I just gave my opinion about it but it wasn't very useful jaja sorry about that..

Rich is nearly always right about Ibanez things, so it is good to know you have a complete original DY

But it is still weird to me, I wonder why the body got darker and the headstock didn't. That's the reason why I said they were different paints..

Enjoy it !
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Re: Jem 777 DY difference in color body-headstock

Very common. In fact most of them are this way, people just don't notice because the headstock is not right next to the body.

It's because the clearcoat on the headstock is much, much thinner than the clear on the body. When the clear on the body becomes orange/brown, it looks like this. I can tell from the picture that this has happened. The guitar might also have spent a significant amount of time in the light, which would have faded the headstock. What does the paint look like under the truss rod cover?
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I felt that my DY's got a bit more brighter in the color after some treatments
with meguiars paint renovator.

I remember that the seller of the VDY told me that it was a slightly difference in the yellow color on the headstock and body. But it's hard to see.

http://www.jemsite.com/gallery/showi...mageuser=51519

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maybe the previous owner had it on a stand by a window and the sun shown on the headstock day after day?? who knows. Nice guitar either way
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Thx guys for your replies. Fact is i'm very happy to have found such a beautiful one in it's pink lined case. I'm also glad I'm not the only one with a toned specimen.

It just needed some minor work. It had a loose trem post and since the neck pocket crack was a bit in the wood, I filled it up with wood glue at the inside of the pocket and with clear nail polish I stabilised the crack in the clearcoat . I think it is good for 23 more years now :-)
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would be a great colour, light dy, for a 70v
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Happened to see another forum member's dy's (rcassoc) in the gallery. Those dy's are almost orange or honey color. +1 for the theory of the toned clearcoat...
But why do some tone and others not?
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Happened to see another forum member's dy's (rcassoc) in the gallery. Those dy's are almost orange or honey color. +1 for the theory of the toned clearcoat...
But why do some tone and others not?
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But why do some tone and others not?
Exposure to light. Guitars that were always kept in cases fare much better.
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