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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 10-09-2007, 09:49 PM Thread Starter
 
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Jem 7v Action to high help!

I got my Jem 7v today, but the action is a bit to high. Im having trouble trying to figure out how to lower it. It looks as if theres a allen key hole inside the allen key hole. Do you have to unlock this some how? None of the allen keys provided fit the small hole inside the hole.
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post #2 of 32 (permalink) Old 10-09-2007, 10:32 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Jem 7v Action to high help!

Ohh and I have read the ibanezrules tech and searched this forum.
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Ohh and I have read the ibanezrules tech and searched this forum.
Appearently not too well........

http://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/action.htm

Did you read this???

Action Adjustment

Adjusting the action varies by the type of guitar but since this is an Ibanez site you'll find Ibanez directions. Final action adjustment is the last tweak to make and should be done when the neck relief is correct [for you] and the trem angle is correct. After it's set make a final check of the setup to be positive nothing else has changed. Once action height is set it should never need adjusting, the only things that will change it are the natural changes your neck will make as it warms/cools/humidifies/dries, and the trem angle which will change for the same reasons, as your neck moves, and your body swells and shrinks. Adjust what is changing, don't just tweak the string height as a quick fix instead of tweaking what has caused the action to change [although between string changes even I'll go for the quick fix over a re-setup].

It is perfectly fine that the bridge is at an angle!! [the treble side lower than the bass]. Wound strings need much more room to oscillate than the fine treble strings. You can run treble action much lower than bass without buzz and is perfectly fine to do.

Floating Bridge - Edge, Lo Pro, Pro Edge, and all of the double locking Floyd variants are adjusted by raising and lowering the trem studs that the knife edges pivot on. There is a small 1.5mm Allen adjustable set screw inside the studs on all Edge and Lo Pro equipped guitars that must be kept tight for the best tuning stability. Never try and loosen it with the allen wrench but use the 4mm Allen to back out [Lefty Loosey] the studs a hair to free the set screws. If raising the action raise it until it's correct and retighten the set screws. If lowering the action use the 1.5mm Allen to back out the set screw enough to allow the bridge to be lowered. When correct retighten the set screws. Important! After you've tightened the sets using the 1.5mm Allen use your 4mm Allen to tighten the studs down on the set screw to really lock the threads together and give a very solid fulcrum for the bridge. It should only be about 1/16th of a turn so don't try grinding everything together or you'll either break the head off the stud or spin the stud anchors in the body, use good sense when applying torque, but you do want the threads locked together. Adjusting the string height to a large degree will alter the tuning slightly, which can alter everything. If you are making extreme action adjustments be sure to retune, readjust the trem angle, and then recheck the action. Yes, you can adjust the studs with the strings at full pitch without fear of damaging the knife edges or the studs.

This was taken right off IbanezRules
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Re: Jem 7v Action to high help!

I did read this, several times. I dont understand it?

On my rg350 I just use a single allen key wrench to lower or raise both sides of the trem system. From what I understand of this, you have to use a smaller allen key to unlock somthing, and you can raise or lower the trem system?

Please help me with this? can someone explain to me what to do in real simple terms?
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Floating Bridge - Edge, Lo Pro, Pro Edge, and
What's a Pro Edge Mikey?? hehe! You haven't been here in a while and I owe you a few


Eat Sleep, what year is your 7v?? If it's pre 2003 it'll be a Lo-Pro. 2003 and on It'll be an Edgepro. There is a difference in the the way you set the trem angle.

what year?
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What's a Pro Edge Mikey?? hehe! You haven't been here in a while and I owe you a few


Eat Sleep, what year is your 7v?? If it's pre 2003 it'll be a Lo-Pro. 2003 and on It'll be an Edgepro. There is a difference in the the way you set the trem angle.

what year?
I just got it brand new from a store in Vancouver B.C. who just recently got it. So its got to be pretty new
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Re: Jem 7v Action to high help!

i have a rg350 and a jem 555 which i raised and lowered the trem system several times. When I read these instructions, it sounds like i have to unlock somthing first?
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Re: Jem 7v Action to high help!

http://www.ibanezrules.com/images/te...etup_post3.jpg

is this pre 2003 models?

Can i just raise and lower it like my rg350 and jem 555
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Re: Jem 7v Action to high help!

If it is a brand new Jem, meaning if it has an Edge Pro, then the answer is no, you do not have locking studs present and you DO NOT need to unlock anything on the bridge to raise or lower your action.

The exception to this is if someone has installed Rich's locking stud mod on this guitar which is extremely doubtful if you picked it up new in a retail store.
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finally, it just seems like i have to force the studs quite a bit.. ill go try it.
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Re: Jem 7v Action to high help!

OK so it's an Edge Pro. You'll want the trem angle parallel to the body. That can make a big difference in height. They are non-locking studs (unless you got it from Rich

Simply adjust the bridge height with the 4mm wrench provided in your tool pac. Clockwise = lower / counterclockwise = raise.


It's not rocket science good luck and make sure the trem angle is parallel


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finally, it just seems like i have to force the studs quite a bit.. ill go try it.

what do you mean force?? they arent bottomed out are they??? Don't force it
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What's a Pro Edge Mikey?? hehe! You haven't been here in a while and I owe you a few
"Pro Edge"...... that came right off Rich's keyboard! I just did the cut & paste!

Actually this guy needs to determine the year of his JEM and whether it's been modified plus the floating bridge type. Did it come with a blank warranty card? What's the serial number? Got pic's??? (big help there!)

I'd suggest if he's not comfortable, doesn't understand Rich's instructions or doesn't know the difference between Ibanez floating bridges to take it to a guitar tech familiar with JEM's. JMHO & $.02 worth of advice.
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Re: Jem 7v Action to high help!

I got it, i didnt have to unlock anything. I just had to turn the allen key a bit harder.
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I got it, i didnt have to unlock anything. I just had to turn the allen key a bit harder.
I knew ya could they are just new studs

It's HIGHLY doubtful it has the locking stud mod coming from a music store

Is your trem parallel to the body???

I know how those factory Ibanez setups (or lack there of) are
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"Pro Edge"...... that came right off Rich's keyboard! I just did the cut & paste!
Oh boy is he gonna get it

I think we can help eatsleep out without having to take it to a tech
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