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View Poll Results: If a JEM Acoustic/Electric guitar is not made in Japan, does it effect your final purchasing plans?
No. It has no effect on my decision making to purchase. 70 22.44%
Maybe. It would effect my evaluation process & perhaps purchase plans 106 33.97%
Yes. I would not purchase an Ibanez Signature guitar made in Korea/China/etc. 136 43.59%
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post #76 of 117 (permalink) Old 07-04-2004, 11:08 AM
 
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Wow- some of you guys are very forgiving to the new Vai acoustic being Korean, but seem less so when someone asks about getting a 555 or JS100. Same issue isn't it? Are we just harsher when there is a better alternative? I voted Yes- if I buy a signature model, it better be at the top of the line, and Ibanez doesn't made their top of the line stuff in Korea. Period. Sorry, but no level of self-convincing is gonna save this. Anyone who thinks I am wrong, give me a call- I have a GREAT JS100 I'll trade you for some of your Japanese (or US) made stuff!
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post #77 of 117 (permalink) Old 07-04-2004, 02:24 PM
 
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I can't believe I'm saying this for the 700th time.

No Ibanez comes with a case anywhere unless the DEALER orders and includes it in the price of the guitar. Only limited edition guitars have a case included in the cost of the guitar [and then Guitar Center will seperate them and sell them seperate anyway]
Well please excuse my relative lack of knowledge on the goings on between Ibanez & their dealers, I appreciate your enlightening me on the situation as it stands, so thank you for the info. I'll be sure to get it right next time so you wont have to say it 701 times ok?? I've only just joined this forum & I'm copping attitude already what's with that??
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post #78 of 117 (permalink) Old 07-04-2004, 02:27 PM
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That was actually directed at about 6 different posters all saying the same thing about cases in the last week. I wasn't copping an attitude, just stating the facts, for the 700th time.
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post #79 of 117 (permalink) Old 07-08-2004, 09:38 PM
 
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The Korean guitars I've played have not been as good

I just think that the Korean guitars I've played have not been as good as the Jap guitars.. All in all, I'd not buy ESPECIALLY if the price were the same as I'd think Ibanez was trying to get me for Jap quality that woudn't be there.. I can't prove that of course, but I'd almost bet that Korean wood is not as good of wood, or they don't dry it as well as the japs, they don't hold tolerences as good I'd bet, but I don't know.. I know I've seen a million Korean guitars out there, and only a handful are really useful to me.. I've seen bad US guitars, but not near as many. I've seen bad japanese guitars also, but again not near as many that were bad as China, Korea, etc.. Like all companies I'd bet they are trying to move production to cheaper labor in Korea.. I don't think it's a good idea for Ibanez. Look at what happened to Kramer for going to Japan for god sakes and those guitars were good I thought ..

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post #80 of 117 (permalink) Old 07-14-2004, 03:12 PM
 
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I just bought a Korean made Epiphone. Great attention to detail, finish, frets. A quality axe for not much $$. Where the guitar is made isn't as important as how well the guitar is made.
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post #81 of 117 (permalink) Old 07-18-2004, 06:25 PM
 
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i voted maybe. i don't buy the Rg4XX and under mostly because the Korean ones have inferior hardware and pups. i am hoping this is not the case with the EP-7. i would like to play one but sadly, the Ibanez dealer in town RARELY carries any Ibanez models for more than $550.
from what i have read, they sound like a quality product and the decision would be made from a "hands on" review rather than origin produced.
i am always MORE skeptical at non-USA or Japanese made instruments but have played quite a few good Korean models.
i imagine some may factor in resale value being lower with korean made guitars than Japanese.

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post #82 of 117 (permalink) Old 07-18-2004, 10:55 PM
 
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Resale value matters as well

The last poster brought up a good point. It seems that Korean guitars don't have the resale value that the Japenese guitars do at this point. Japenese guitars didn't have it for many years. I can remember when people said "Don't buy a japanese strat" for many years, and now I find out that they are better in a lot of ways than some of the US strats that were made at that time.. It's interesting. The CNC machine has made guitar making easier and allowed companies to move CNC machines to places where labor is cheap, this way they can beat inflation. Usually you beat inflation two ways.. Cheaper labor, or cheaper parts. If you use CNC's, the guitar or part is made the same as it's a program that's running making the body or the neck, etc.. If you use cheap labor and a CNC you have the best of both worlds. I'd say that this is what motivates most companies to go to Korea. Where does it end though? I see now that guitars are being made big time in China, and Indonesia.. I will not buy a guitar made in China just because of their political views against us and their own people. Hell, we the US that is, are spending loads of money to insure they don't try to take over the world. Why on earth would I want to buy a product from a country that my soldiers may fight some day.. Just my personal opinion! Your milage my vary. Consult your legal department.. hehe..

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post #83 of 117 (permalink) Old 07-21-2004, 05:52 AM
 
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Re: Resale value matters as well

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Hell, we the US that is, are spending loads of money to insure they don't try to take over the world. Why on earth would I want to buy a product from a country that my soldiers may fight some day.. Tim
The US are spending gazillions kissing the chinese government's butt in order to have US companies have acces to the chinese market And with the rapid growth of its economy and massively increasing consumption of oil (china's runner up behind the US who still have a 100% lead with nearly 20 million barrels a day if I recall correctly) we'll sooner be facing annihilation of the entire planet because of environmental pollution caused by western countries, than ever seeing a chinese soldier leave his home.

BTW A friend of mine got his RG3120 with a case, can you believe it?
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post #84 of 117 (permalink) Old 07-26-2004, 11:17 PM
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I would probably buy a Breedlove if I were looking for a better acoustic than my Ovation.

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post #85 of 117 (permalink) Old 07-29-2004, 05:44 AM
 
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I look the other way when I see "Korea". It's just habit.
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post #86 of 117 (permalink) Old 09-10-2004, 02:40 PM
 
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i don't believe the country of origin really means that much anymore i've played guitars from the USA, Japan, Mexico... it doesn't seem to matter, if you were to pay an american guitar maker a korean wage - would the guitar be worse ? Is there actually a qualitive difference between the skills of one man and another that can be measured by the country he's sticking two pieces of wood together in ?

The components used to construct the guitar outweigh the amount paid to put the parts together, if the wood is good, and the piezo in the jem acoustic is well made and finally if it sounds good - i'd buy one, unless i knew for a fact that Ibanez had used sweated labour or some other distasteful practice - child labor, making the workers listen to status quo etc...
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post #87 of 117 (permalink) Old 09-12-2004, 09:20 AM
 
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For me it would not effect my purchasing plans.


Of course if all things are equal, hardware, wood, finish etc. There would be no noticeable difference in the instrument if it was made in Japan, USA, Korea. Mexico, etc...


I have to laugh when I hear people who buy Japan made guitars put down Korean made ones. Too funny!
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post #88 of 117 (permalink) Old 09-15-2004, 10:19 PM
 
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Ah, here it is...!
Thanks Glen.. Sorry about missing this one;-)

Time for some reading....
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post #89 of 117 (permalink) Old 09-28-2004, 02:56 PM
 
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I think it really depends on what the guitar is for. If people buy it as an investment, then where it is made will make a difference. If the guitar is for live gig or studio work, I don't think too many people can tell the difference in sound quality anyways.

As far as quality, I have owed Korean adn US made Wolfgangs. And I couldn't tell the difference in sound and playability.
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post #90 of 117 (permalink) Old 09-30-2004, 12:04 AM
 
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Does it come with a case? 'Cause that would be really cool!
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