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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 10-08-2007, 12:51 AM Thread Starter
 
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JEM77VBK vs. JEM7DBK

I've been wondering this for a while, actually. What is so vastly different about the JEM77VBK that it justifies the huge price markup from the JEM7DBK? From what I can tell it has a vine, and... not a whole lot else to differentiate. They both have the same neck, same fingerboard, same Breed pickups and same mirror pickguard (as far I as I know). Granted the trem is different but as Ibanez doesn't put the Edge on normal production models I don't see it as an issue here. Back in 2001 the 7DBK was listing for 1599$, and now the 77VBK lists for over 1000$ more than that? Perhaps I'm missing something here. As nice as the vine inlays are I find it hard to believe that they justify that kind of price increase (even allowing for inflation).
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Re: JEM77VBK vs. JEM7DBK

Never try to justify price points, you either like it or you don't, you're either willing to spend it or you aren't. It's just that simple.

You might as well ask - How much difference on a cost basis is there between the $2800 VBK and $2900 VWH?
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How much difference on a cost basis is there between the $2800 VBK and $2900 VWH?
Gold aint cheap and I've heard there is an abundance of Alder these days




B of T, as long as people are willing to keep paying the prices, the prices will keep steadily on the rise. Also the Value of the prior model Jems has skyrocketed over the last few years. (so that doesn't help matters) Especially certain models such as the DNA and PMC.

Really what is comes down to = "why is a company in business"?? To make as much profit as possible. Simple as that

BTW - it's not the same neck. The DBK neck was thinner. In between the Wizard and the Prestige currently available on the Jems. Also, between the extra labor hours and cost of materials, the mop/ab vine neck is Justifiably more expensive! And don't forget inflation 2007 v.s 2001
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Re: JEM77VBK vs. JEM7DBK

The VBK is a basically a BRMR without the mirror and has vines added to it. Besides, the VBK was more of the 'poor man's JEM' (not the RGs).
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Besides, the DBK was more of the 'poor man's JEM' .
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The VBK is a basically a BRMR without the mirror and has vines added to it. Besides, the VBK was more of the 'poor man's JEM' (not the RGs).
$2800 for a poor mans jem.come off it..think you might find thats the 555s
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I always wondered why the VSBL listed for more than the VWH a few years back. Basically same guitar with different colors, if anything I would have thought the MOP inlays would make it more expensive than the VSBLs plastic ones.
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I always wondered why the VSBL listed for more than the VWH a few years back. Basically same guitar with different colors, if anything I would have thought the MOP inlays would make it more expensive than the VSBLs plastic ones.

It was a new model. (new models = $) Nothing else to it
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It was a new model. (new models = $) Nothing else to it
and thats why you get paid the big bucks to be a mod! Thanks man!
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$2800 for a poor mans jem.come off it..think you might find thats the 555s
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Besides, the DBK was more of the 'poor man's JEM' .
$ 1,599 in 01 and remember these are LIST prices.

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and thats why you get paid the big bucks to be a mod! Thanks man!
Yep I'm a zillionaire ~D

And really it's just basic business sense
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Woops!

Made a prat of myself didn't I. If I really did consider the VBK as a poor man's Jem I'd be laughing myself all the way to the bank by now.
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Woops!

Made a prat of myself didn't I.
Naw, not at all bro If there is anyone that can understand typos here its me

Just in this case, the model was in question
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Naw, not at all bro If there is anyone that can understand typos here its me

Just in this case, the model was in question
That's why you're the mod, Jim.
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That's why you're the mod, Jim.
Awww ...thanks King, but I'm A mod, not THE Mod!!

I'd be nothing without my partners in crime
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Awww ...thanks King, but I'm A mod, not THE Mod!!

I'd be nothing without my partners in crime
I know that I'm adding fuel to a pointless fire, but you're the mod in this here thread.
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