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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-13-2011, 07:48 AM Thread Starter
 
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JS1000 rosewood colour

I have 2 JS 1000, one white, and one Black Pearl.
Both about the same age.

The colour of the rosewood fretboards are very different.
The BP is very light, and the white one has a fretboard dark alsmost like ebony. There is a big difference.

After googeling around, looking at pictures, it is pretty clear that the colour vary a lot.

Why is this? If I would manufacture guitars, I would not accept this inconstistency.

Or, do Ibanez use different coloured fretboards because of different colour on the body?

I picked up the Black Pearl one at a pawn shop, where it had been in the window, and the fretboard was very dry, and VERY lifgt in colour.
I applied some lemon oil, and this drakened the board a lot, but itīs still not close to the White one.

The lighter fretboard is also pretty uneven, "flamed".

Cosmetic issues, I know, but Iīm just curious.

Anybody got some thoughts?
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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-13-2011, 08:05 AM
 
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Why is this? If I would manufacture guitars, I would not accept this inconstistency.

because they are from different trees ?? Do you assume the inside of each looks alike ?
You can stain the lighter one if it bothers you. I say let it go. Who cares
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Re: JS1000 rosewood colour

Thanks for a quick answer!
I agree, itīs not a big deal - only a cosmetic thing.
However, Iīm still curious why Ibanez let the difference be this big.
Is it intentional or by accident?
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Re: JS1000 rosewood colour

its intentional think of it like a swirl of sorts each board is unique to each guitar.
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post #5 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-13-2011, 09:12 AM
 
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Re: JS1000 rosewood colour

As you probably already know by now, and what you have already discovered, it's not unusual to have two variations of color in rosewood. They all vary in color, and a lot can contribute to that, sunlight, dryness, etc. I wouldn't worry about the color differences at all.
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post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-14-2011, 07:35 AM
 
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Re: JS1000 rosewood colour

Even the most expensive woods in the world or hardwoods like Tiger Myrtle, Bocote, Crossgrained Oak, Kingwood, Cocobollo, Makassar Ebony .... can very largely in color.
Unless you are able to have a guitar custom build for you and choose the wood IN PERSON from the log, you will most likely have to live with the fact that this is a natural thing and may differ from your expectation.

The only chance you have from stock guitars is if the shop carries several of the model and you can select the one closest to your expectations.
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However, Iīm still curious why Ibanez let the difference be this big.
Is it intentional or by accident?
It's neither. It's you. You need to get over it. Many companies dye their ebony jet black. I hate that. I'd rather have natural streaks, but others think it looks bad. If I were at Ibanez I would not only allow the "inconsistencies" but as a woodworker I celebrate it. Rosewood darkens with time, play, and the addition of oils. The lighter one will darken.
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post #8 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-16-2011, 01:16 PM
 
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Re: JS1000 rosewood colour

Just noticed you have only these two posts here. I don't mean to sound harsh or make you feel unwelcome! Perhaps I should have simply said "it's a problem for some but enjoyed by others, and I wouldn't direct any negativity toward Ibanez over it.
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Just noticed you have only these two posts here. I don't mean to sound harsh or make you feel unwelcome! Perhaps I should have simply said "it's a problem for some but enjoyed by others, and I wouldn't direct any negativity toward Ibanez over it.
No problem
You didnīt sound harsh. I appreciate the input.

Itīs no biggie really. I am just curious.
The guitar is still a great one (thatīs why I hav 2)

I didnīt want to be negative about Ibanez either.
Iīm just wondering if the difference ("milk chocolate" vs "liqourice"..sort of) is a generation thing (year of manufacture), something to do with the colour of the body (most pics of white JS1000 show a very dark board, for instance), or if Ibanez simply let there be differences intentionally. I guess from the aswers, that itīs the latter, which is cool. I do like a dark board better, but thats my opinion.
A problem may be that ordering a guitar online, with differences this big, may give one a surprise. Maybe youīd like the light board, as on the shops pic, but get a dark one, or vice versa.

But, as I said, Itīs not really a problem for me. The guitar is still great, and looks great (allthough not as good as my white JS1000 )
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Re: JS1000 rosewood colour

Ibanez has nothing to do with it, Fujigen builds the guitars using wood Fujigen has sourced. There are lots of different genomes of rosewood and they're grown in every part of the world, and the world woods market is huge. Like everything else suppliers change over time. It's more than likely just simply different rosewood.

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............If I were at Ibanez I would not only allow the "inconsistencies" but as a woodworker I celebrate it.
I LOVE this statement!!!

Sadly, these sentiments are only found in small groups of "Woodphiles" like ourselves........yes, I just made that word up

It seems that many years ago you could talk to people about "sapwood" or "heartwood" and they knew what you were talking about. Now they only care that it's wood and demand that it matches their dishes.......lol
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post #12 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-17-2011, 12:37 AM
 
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Re: JS1000 rosewood colour

Sometimes I like light rosewood boards. But you can always darken a light board with a little pigment in oil. As I said, they all darken with age as well. Though not the primary reason for different board colors, different parts of the same rosewood tree can be different colors. It doesn't even have to mean different suppliers, different regions, etc.
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Ibanez has nothing to do with it, Fujigen builds the guitars using wood Fujigen has sourced. There are lots of different genomes of rosewood and they're grown in every part of the world, and the world woods market is huge. Like everything else suppliers change over time. It's more than likely just simply different rosewood.
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Sometimes I like light rosewood boards. But you can always darken a light board with a little pigment in oil. As I said, they all darken with age as well. Though not the primary reason for different board colors, different parts of the same rosewood tree can be different colors. It doesn't even have to mean different suppliers, different regions, etc.
Yeah, this is probably it. makes totally sence

Thanks everybody!
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