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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-17-2005, 08:29 PM Thread Starter
 
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Question JS2000, Is it any good?

I'm looking for a fixed bridge guitar to add to my arsenal. What do ya think?
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post #2 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-18-2005, 07:08 AM
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Re: JS2000, Is it any good?

I'd say wait til the new trim stop comes out and save yourself some cash if you already have a JS. If not then buy a JS1000 and ah trim-no (when there out).
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Re: JS2000, Is it any good?

All the benefis of a fixed bridge (quick string change and quick tuning down/up) have been lost on the JS2000 with it's Fixed EDGE - you'd get the same result by blocking a JS1000/JS1200s trem with a woodblock or something.
That way you can always have the option of unblocking it later.
The JS2000 fixed bridge double locking system is over engineered to the point of stupidity.

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post #4 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-18-2005, 07:53 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: JS2000, Is it any good?

Thanks for the info guys.
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post #5 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-18-2005, 08:37 AM
 
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Re: JS2000, Is it any good?

Not to trash it completely...lol

I had one and exchanged it for js1000...however it sounds a little more alive.

I gues it has something to do with a little more wood, because of the missing tremolo cavities...
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post #6 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-18-2005, 06:10 PM
 
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Re: JS2000, Is it any good?

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The JS2000 fixed bridge double locking system is over engineered to the point of stupidity.

ilia
I actually like fixed bridge on the JS2000. I currently have a RG421 right now, and there are many things I miss about Edge systems. First, I really really like having the fine tuner knobs. I also miss being able to adjust one or two screws to adjust action instead of each individual saddle. Finally, I love the way the Edge feels when you palm-mute...it's incredibly smooth. Not so with Fender-style hardtail bridges. Another thing I miss is having the ball end at the top of the tuners so if you break a string by the bridge, you can always unwind a little and restring it if you're in a pinch. Yeah, you have to mess with stretching strings before locking them down, but if you just take off the locking nut pads, you don't really have to worry about that. Now if Ibanez would release a piezo version I would be in heaven!
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post #7 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-19-2005, 05:46 AM
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Re: JS2000, Is it any good?

Just block the trem in ANY double locking trem equiped guitar with a hardwood block and you'll get the same effect.

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post #8 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-19-2005, 05:04 PM
 
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Re: JS2000, Is it any good?

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Yeah, you have to mess with stretching strings before locking them down, but if you just take off the locking nut pads, you don't really have to worry about that.
Rich told me a while ago that a locking nut isn't designed to be unlocked and played. It messes up during bending.
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post #9 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-19-2005, 06:56 PM
 
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Re: JS2000, Is it any good?

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Rich told me a while ago that a locking nut isn't designed to be unlocked and played. It messes up during bending.
Depends, I have been playing with unlocked nut for a while now (at first I put new strings on and wanted them to settle, then just left it like that) and it plays fine and stays in tune too, without too much bar abuse. That's a FR nut though, if that makes any difference...
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post #10 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-20-2005, 07:10 AM
 
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Re: JS2000, Is it any good?

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Depends, I have been playing with unlocked nut for a while now (at first I put new strings on and wanted them to settle, then just left it like that) and it plays fine and stays in tune too, without too much bar abuse. That's a FR nut though, if that makes any difference...
A locking nut should be locked. The reason is that it is not designed with smooth stringguidance in mind, but the opposite, it is meant to lock the strings in place.

An unlocked locking nut is easy to catch the strings and make them go sharp or flat during bends or tremmovement. Just look at how much contact the string has with the nut and imagine that string having to move fluentlty through it during bends. Not going to happen.
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Re: JS2000, Is it any good?

Seeing as how I own the JS2000, an RG421, an SC420, and a floating 1527, and have owned blocked Floyd's, I'd definitely disagree with Dex. An Edge FX is not the same as a blocked trem.
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post #12 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-20-2005, 06:41 PM
 
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Re: JS2000, Is it any good?

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A locking nut should be locked. The reason is that it is not designed with smooth stringguidance in mind, but the opposite, it is meant to lock the strings in place.

An unlocked locking nut is easy to catch the strings and make them go sharp or flat during bends or tremmovement. Just look at how much contact the string has with the nut and imagine that string having to move fluentlty through it during bends. Not going to happen.
A locking nut is made to be locked, and it probably should be, I'm just saying that I don't see much difference when playing with the nut unlocked. This is true for me, might not be true for someone else. I guess some of it has something to do with the string retainer bar...
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post #13 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-20-2005, 08:47 PM Thread Starter
 
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Since not many like it, I'm thinking that I should be able to get one at a discount. Am I wrong??
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post #14 of 21 (permalink) Old 03-17-2005, 11:34 AM
 
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Re: JS2000, Is it any good?

js2000 is an awesome guitar. now shut up and play the guitar u like lol
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post #15 of 21 (permalink) Old 03-17-2005, 02:59 PM
 
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Re: JS2000, Is it any good?

This is the first I've heard of a new trem-stop device (trem-no?). Can someone please post a link to this? I'll put one on all my floating bridge ibbies
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