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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 08-22-2001, 08:27 PM Thread Starter
 
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My first Jem - whats the best option

You guys all seem to have a lot of experience with these guitars so I was wondering if you could give me your opinion. *After seeing one in a magazine, I have been saving for a Jem10 (it looks amazing but I don't think I will be able to get together $3000 for a used guitar). *Anyway, I am very serious about getting my first Jem to play not collect. *

Please tell me your opinion of the best players Jem, also are there any advanages/disadvantages to an older model compared with the new? *For example, some people have said the AANJ limits the sustain. *I really prefer the vine inlay.

P.S. *I have about $1000 saved.

(Edited by Little Pete at 8:29 pm on Aug. 22, 2001)
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post #2 of 25 (permalink) Old 08-22-2001, 09:58 PM
 
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I think the Jem7DBK is awesome, and it has a great price to go along with it. Mine was 1,300.00 but you might be able to get one even cheaper. Only thing you have to ask is if you like that unique finish? Plus no vine inlays.

* * As for other features depending on how big your hands are the older style Jem neck joint can be a real bitch especially if like playing alot on the high frets. Plus the neck is a little thicker. Thats the only problem I have with old Jems, and with how much money you have saved I think you could find a really great old style Jem used.

* * Check out the Rich Harris website link above and go to the used(or new page as well) page. It's a really great website, and trust me you won't be dissapointed! He may not have the model you want but you won't regret buying from him. Good luck.
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post #3 of 25 (permalink) Old 08-22-2001, 11:23 PM
 
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$3000? For a Jem10? *Oh wait a minute, you must be looking at Kevan's... *Hey, don't you mean $3800? *OK, I can sell you mine for $2400! *And you won't even have to worry about dinging or scratching it! *Dings and scratches provided! *

But seriously, Rich can help you out... big time. *Also, there are lots of good deals on Jemsite. *Someone's always deperately selling a guitar for a great price.

And for $1000, I recommend saving about $200 more and getting a used VWH. *Can't go wrong there man. *If you just want an Ibanez (not a Jem), get an American Master. *By far superior to any guitar I've played. *You can probably score one for your *price range.

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post #4 of 25 (permalink) Old 08-22-2001, 11:32 PM
 
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"Ouch...ouch...definitely hurt...ow..definitley hurt..."
There's a reason my JEM10 is $3800. *:-)
(Glen- save your jokes for amateur night at Rascals)

I'd reccommend an FP. *They come with the old-school heel joints, but do have a nice vine inlay and can be found (with case and shipping) for about $1K.

Gabe's suggestion of saving up another couple of hundred for a pre-owned VWH is a great idea. *

The "For Sale" section here on Jemsite and Rich Harris' "Ibanez Rules" are the two best spots on the 'net to get what you're looking for at a great price.

www.ibanezrules.com
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post #5 of 25 (permalink) Old 08-22-2001, 11:38 PM
 
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Yep, save a little more and get a new or use VWH. That is where I started with jems. Also, I wouldn't ignore the Prestige series.
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post #6 of 25 (permalink) Old 08-23-2001, 09:28 AM
 
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Just save yourself the trouble and go ahead and by a Universe...you're going to want one later on anyway. *Price-wise you can pick up a good used UV777BK for under a grand, or a GR, or a PWH...sorry, I'm starting to sweat over here and I'm gettin' kindof choked up.
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post #7 of 25 (permalink) Old 08-23-2001, 09:42 AM
 
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I ended up getting a new 7DBK.....it's a fantastic guitar (I tried out a bunch of different models before making my decision) it's supposed to arrive today..I can't wait!!

I would say get a 7D, except you say you want Vines...with a little more $$ you can get a used 7V, a little more than that and Rich can you a new one for $1600 or so

best of luck to you, let us know what you decide to do
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post #8 of 25 (permalink) Old 08-23-2001, 12:27 PM
 
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I'd play a couple if you can, untill you find one you go home dreaming about and are excited about when you think about it (sort of like an adolescent crush) then find out how it generally goes for second hand, save, and then look for one! Or find out how much rich sells em for...
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post #9 of 25 (permalink) Old 08-23-2001, 03:39 PM
 
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Although I have a Jem10, I am looking for my first Jem to play. *The Jem10 is just to nice for me to risk dings and scraches. *I know you think this sounds crazy, but if I am afraid to ding it there is no way I can go all out playing it. *As a result, I am saving up for a used Jem to play on a daily basis. *IMO the AANJ is awsome (I have resently played a new VWH at GC) it is very comfortable to play the high register, and I don't notice any loss of tone or sustain. *As for looks, I think the Jem10 and DNA are tied for the best, but in the more affordable range the VWH, BFP, and VDY are very cool. *I also have a little over $1000 saved for the Jem so we might be getting one around the same time... let me know what you decide and when you get one.

Does any body know if there is a AANJ available on a BFP or VDY or are these only available with the old stump? :^)
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post #10 of 25 (permalink) Old 08-28-2001, 11:19 AM Thread Starter
 
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Thanks for the replies.

I think I'm going to wait and look for a good deal on a used vwh or vdy (because I don't see many vdy, and want to be different). *I have noticed that the vwh is not basewood. *Does this make any difference in sound compared to the other jems?

(Edited by Little Pete at 11:19 am on Aug. 28, 2001)
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post #11 of 25 (permalink) Old 08-28-2001, 11:50 AM
 
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well some people will say that body wood makes a significant difference, I'm of the opinion that it makes only a very very slight difference

most people in a blind test would not be able to tell the difference between a basswood or alder wood guitar

that said, BOTH alder and basswood are excellent tone woods

to me the significant differences in tones happen with pickups, and the Evolutions in a 7VWH are what make the biggest difference in tone......they are excellent pickups (as are the Breeds in a 7DBK)
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post #12 of 25 (permalink) Old 08-28-2001, 12:44 PM
 
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Both the VWH and the VDY are awsome looking guitars... *well I guess all the Jems are when I stop and think about it. * As for tones and woods they are both good but I think alder may be heavier.
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post #13 of 25 (permalink) Old 08-29-2001, 05:51 PM
 
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Id say save for the VWH...as others have said you just cant go wrong.With the VDY , you may have a prob that it dosnt have the AANJ if you dont mind go for it...
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post #14 of 25 (permalink) Old 08-29-2001, 10:34 PM
 
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So, is the Jem7dbk significantly worse than the 7vwh and other Jems?
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post #15 of 25 (permalink) Old 08-30-2001, 12:12 AM
 
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imho NO the 7DBK is not worse than the 7VWH at all, it just looks different and has different pickups and a slightly thinner neck...it's more a matter of preferences
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