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post #16 of 51 (permalink) Old 01-19-2021, 12:43 PM
 
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I love the new colour scheme it might actually be my favourite Ďnon-Limited editioní finish on a Vai guitar so far, but still canít reconcile myself to buy the Ďmelted in the sun when Steve left it on the dashboard of his carí version of the JEM that is the PIA.
As an owner of a white PIA, I unfortunately canít unsee your comment about the melted in the sun, LOL. There is some truth to it there. As I might of said earlier, the white PIA looks like something Prince would have played. For the black, Iím Johnny Cash or Wayne Newton.

That said, I played mine for a couple hours last night, and it really is an outstanding player guitar. The alder body and thicker neck give it some heft over the normal basswood JEMís. The stainless steel frets are fantastic also.
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As an owner of a white PIA, I unfortunately canít unsee your comment about the melted in the sun, LOL. There is some truth to it there. As I might of said earlier, the white PIA looks like something Prince would have played. For the black, Iím Johnny Cash or Wayne Newton.

That said, I played mine for a couple hours last night, and it really is an outstanding player guitar. The alder body and thicker neck give it some heft over the normal basswood JEMís. The stainless steel frets are fantastic also.
Don't get me wrong I WANT so badly to love the PIA, I just can't It does away with some of my very favourite parts of the JEM. It may very well actually be a better guitar than the JEM!!! I just don't like the shape of it
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I really really want to like it, I want it to grow on me..... but just absolutely hate the petals and the slightly melted look, and the pickup covers aren't helping. So no new MIJ Jem for 2021 then... thankfully the RG565 Genesis will go some way to satisfying my GAS for 2021.

Edit: Ha, must have been typing this just as Jono replied.
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this feels like something Wayne Newton might have commissioned for a Vegas act.
If Liberace played guitar, I think this is what he would have played. It's the guitar you buy when you have a marble-floored home....
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I love the new colour scheme it might actually be my favourite ‘non-Limited edition’ finish on a Vai guitar so far, but still can’t reconcile myself to buy the ‘melted in the sun when Steve left it on the dashboard of his car’ version of the JEM that is the PIA.
As an owner of a white PIA, I unfortunately can’t unsee your comment about the melted in the sun, LOL. There is some truth to it there. As I might of said earlier, the white PIA looks like something Prince would have played. For the black, I’m Johnny Cash or Wayne Newton.

That said, I played mine for a couple hours last night, and it really is an outstanding player guitar. The alder body and thicker neck give it some heft over the normal basswood JEM’s. The stainless steel frets are fantastic also.
So, the neck on the Pia is thicker than the 7V Jem?
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So, the neck on the Pia is thicker than the 7V Jem?
Do not have much experience with the 7v. Might defer to Rich. Seems thicker to me. Might be optical illusion.
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post #22 of 51 (permalink) Old 01-21-2021, 11:33 AM
 
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Just visited Ibanez.com. The black Pia looks pretty cool (IMO). So, is the White Pia gone for 2021? Although, I've gotta say that I'm not much of a fan of the Pia guitar. My preference is still the JEM. It's just a great design that has stood the test of time and could be considered a classic. But yeah, I like the black PIA the best and the white one second. Something about the PIA design just looks kinda...girly! Especially the Panther Pink one (can you say Barbie guitar)! Again IMHO.
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Just visited Ibanez.com. The black Pia looks pretty cool (IMO). So, is the White Pia gone for 2021? Although, I've gotta say that I'm not much of a fan of the Pia guitar. My preference is still the JEM. It's just a great design that has stood the test of time and could be considered a classic. But yeah, I like the black PIA the best and the white one second. Something about the PIA design just looks kinda...girly! Especially the Panther Pink one (can you say Barbie guitar)! Again IMHO.
I'd say the white Pia is going to be around for a long time.

The pink Pia is for girls 😉
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Re: New Black Pia

An observation:

When a signature model guitar causes controversy, it tends to sell well.

Examples:
EBMM Majesty - John Petrucci's "other" signature model guitar created some controversy due to its aesthetics. Despite the slight resemblance to a shovel, Majesties seem to sell rather well. I think it has something to do with it being a great guitar that wins people over.

PRS Silver Sky - John Mayer's signature model. The controversy was created when people pointed out it resembled a Stratocaster and Paul Reed Smith pointed out it was nothing like a Stratocaster. They were sold out for the first year of production.

Ibanez PIA - I think the controversy with this guitar was in the presentation: the PIA completely usurped the JEM with no real explanation. People were caught off guard, something people usually don't appreciate. Never the less, guitar stores do not seem to have trouble selling them.

I am not saying controversy is a necessity to sell a signature guitar, but in some cases, if it gets people talking, controversy seems to help.
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An observation:

When a signature model guitar causes controversy, it tends to sell well.

Examples:
EBMM Majesty - John Petrucci's "other" signature model guitar created some controversy due to its aesthetics. Despite the slight resemblance to a shovel, Majesties seem to sell rather well. I think it has something to do with it being a great guitar that wins people over.

PRS Silver Sky - John Mayer's signature model. The controversy was created when people pointed out it resembled a Stratocaster and Paul Reed Smith pointed out it was nothing like a Stratocaster. They were sold out for the first year of production.

Ibanez PIA - I think the controversy with this guitar was in the presentation: the PIA completely usurped the JEM with no real explanation. People were caught off guard, something people usually don't appreciate. Never the less, guitar stores do not seem to have trouble selling them.

I am not saying controversy is a necessity to sell a signature guitar, but in some cases, if it gets people talking, controversy seems to help.

What is the saying? "The only bad publicity is NO publicity"?

I think one thing all those guitars have in common is that they're all actually great, highly functional guitars from reputable builders. I think the thing for me is that for both the Majesty and the Pia, despite technically perhaps being better guitars than the "traditional" signature models they replaced. Neither "looks" as good. And for the most part humans are visual creatures,

The Pia for example has stainless steel frets and a more evolved cutaway on the rear of the lower horn designed to aid top fret access. Those arguably make it a "higher performance" guitar than the JEM. But the visual aspects such as the "petal grip" and rounded body contours make it look like a grilled cheese version of the JEM.

The Majesty has similar issues, greater fret access, fancy switching systems, and a spot in aisle 3 at the garden supplies store...

The Silver Sky is a, well, it's a Strat. With a PRS headstock. But John Mayer has bagged loads of hotties and if you buy this guitar, maybe you will too!
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This new black version is really nice looking! I wasn't a fan of the other colors either... But hey, there is certainly a Jem or Pia out there to suit everyone's taste!
Agreed. The black one is by far the best looking Pia so far. I'm not big on gold hardware though.
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What is the saying? "The only bad publicity is NO publicity"?

I think one thing all those guitars have in common is that they're all actually great, highly functional guitars from reputable builders. I think the thing for me is that for both the Majesty and the Pia, despite technically perhaps being better guitars than the "traditional" signature models they replaced. Neither "looks" as good. And for the most part humans are visual creatures,

The Pia for example has stainless steel frets and a more evolved cutaway on the rear of the lower horn designed to aid top fret access. Those arguably make it a "higher performance" guitar than the JEM. But the visual aspects such as the "petal grip" and rounded body contours make it look like a grilled cheese version of the JEM.

The Majesty has similar issues, greater fret access, fancy switching systems, and a spot in aisle 3 at the garden supplies store...

The Silver Sky is a, well, it's a Strat. With a PRS headstock. But John Mayer has bagged loads of hotties and if you buy this guitar, maybe you will too!
Does anybody else see resemblance with Majesty and Maxxas?
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I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I agree...That black one is by far the best looking PIA, and in fact a pretty damn good looking guitar just on it's own...Very classy looking guitar.
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I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I agree...That black one is by far the best looking PIA, and in fact a pretty damn good looking guitar just on it's own...Very classy looking guitar. [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.jemsite.com/forums/images/Jemsite_2017/smilies/tango_face_surprise.png[/IMG] [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.jemsite.com/forums/images/Jemsite_2017/smilies/tango_face_grin.png[/IMG]
€3400 of classy, which now makes it more expensive than the J Custom.
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Ä3400 of classy, which now makes it more expensive than the J Custom.
There's a Panther Pink Pia on AMS in their OutletZone (minor blem) for $2900
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