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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-28-2011, 06:26 PM Thread Starter
 
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Well my necks & body aren't selling, and my renters are moving in this weekend. So the cash crunch will be over.

My 3 planned builds:

AANJ Rootbeer Jem
Square heel raw Jem
Fede PMC 7 string.

I'm picking up an AANJ Rootbeer Jem style body and a square heel Jem style body as well. Donor parts will come from a couple of my RG550's. I'll experiment with the burning on just some 2x4's to get the technique down, before I scorch the RB style body. The BMK screwhead neck will look pretty sharp I'm thinking. I have a couple buddies who paint cars, and they can look after the finish for me.

The other one will be a raw Jem, basically a copy of my #1. I'll black out the disappearing pyramids, and not sure yet if I'll strip the headstock or not.

For the 7 string, I'm not sure if I'll use my doner Ibby 7 string or get a PMC style neck built.

Going all out for these. Tired of looking at the pieces, they won't sell, so I might as well enjoy them!!

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Well my necks & body aren't selling, and my renters are moving in this weekend. So the cash crunch will be over.

My 3 planned builds:

AANJ Rootbeer Jem
Square heel raw Jem
Fede PMC 7 string.

I'm picking up an AANJ Rootbeer Jem style body and a square heel Jem style body as well. Donor parts will come from a couple of my RG550's. I'll experiment with the burning on just some 2x4's to get the technique down, before I scorch the RB style body. The BMK screwhead neck will look pretty sharp I'm thinking. I have a couple buddies who paint cars, and they can look after the finish for me.

The other one will be a raw Jem, basically a copy of my #1. I'll black out the disappearing pyramids, and not sure yet if I'll strip the headstock or not.

For the 7 string, I'm not sure if I'll use my doner Ibby 7 string or get a PMC style neck built.

Going all out for these. Tired of looking at the pieces, they won't sell, so I might as well enjoy them!!

Sound like a couple of great projects!!! Who know's, maybe by the time your done, folks will have more GAS money in their pockets and want to buy a "Robare Original"..... how cool would that be!!!

Btw...congrats on getting through the "crunch" It's not been easy for many of us!!
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BTW... what are you using for a "torch"?
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BTW... what are you using for a "torch"?
I'm not sure. That's where the experimenting will come in. Something with a half decent sized flame I think. Not one of those small torches for soldering copper pipe, I think they would be too small. Almost something like an oxy/acetaline setup, but when it's on idle with the bigger yellow flame. We have welding shops at work so I might find something there, and just bring the body in for the day.
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I'm not sure. That's where the experimenting will come in. Something with a half decent sized flame I think. Not one of those small torches for soldering copper pipe, I think they would be too small. Almost something like an oxy/acetaline setup, but when it's on idle with the bigger yellow flame. We have welding shops at work so I might find something there, and just bring the body in for the day.
That sounds like a good idea..... plumbing torches create a very concentrated flame (and ridiculously hot if your using mapp gas)

I read up on this a long time ago and seem to remember that you should oil the body heavily the day before torching...... It's supposed to help keep the flame on the surface only??? I have no idea how well it works though..... Let us know how the testing goes!!!
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Dumb question, I've never seen a Rootbeer in person. Well I did, but that was back in 88 and I don't remember.

Is it a laquer finish? A clearcoat, or more of an oil finish?
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Probably Nitro-cellulose lacquer. I'd just do your's with a nice automotive style enamel clear. It's VERY tough and dries quickly unlike lacquer which could take months to cure.
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Plumbers blow lamp is the best thing to use, I refinished a BSB a few years back and it was perfect for the job.. If you use oxy/acetaline on yellow flame you'll cover the body in severe amounts of black soot..
Look forward to seeing the results on here when you've finished, I might even do a root beer myself.
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Yeah, I was thinking some kind of stain, and then giving it a go with a torch. The getting that clearcoated, to lock it all in!
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I wonder if they used an industrial heat gun maybe....


Hmm I have that big History of Ibanez book, I'll see if I can find anything...
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Torch first. You cant use a heat gun because you cant direct the flames, that is unless you get some kind of crazy shield contraption to do it.
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I believe the body has arrived!!! I'll know after work, there's a couple things on their way!
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Yeah, I was thinking some kind of stain, and then giving it a go with a torch. The getting that clearcoated, to lock it all in!
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Nice, theres some good ideas there!
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