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post #1 of 35 (permalink) Old 12-31-2014, 03:56 PM Thread Starter
 
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New JS140

MusicRadar have a bunch of the 2015 Ibanez lineup posted and it looks like there's a new JS140. Appears to be a standard series take on the 2400?

http://www.musicradar.com/news/guita...ne-up-612784/5
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post #2 of 35 (permalink) Old 12-31-2014, 04:52 PM
 
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Re: New JS140

So it's like,a JS100 quality?
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Looks like an Indo JS2400 basically.
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Never heard of the pickups.... Cheaper bridge too.... Guess a cheaper version had to happen....is the Jem555 still alive?
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So it's like,a JS100 quality?
Looks to be somewhat of a step up from the JS100 to me. The EZII trem is much better than the Edge III, plus a 24 fret JS neck... I'm interested. Might have alook for a used one in a couple of years. I've always wanted a JS guitar, but can't afford a nice one and the JS100 turned me away with the Edge III trem. (Although the new price of the 140 could buy a used JS1000) Can't say about the pickups on the 140... never had them.
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Re: New JS140

The same link is showing the new Jem Jr that has a full Tree of Life neck... Looks kind of cool. Could make a great project thingy
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post #7 of 35 (permalink) Old 01-01-2015, 09:07 AM
 
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Re: New JS140

This could be very market-specific as well. The Jem Jr. was only ever sold in markets where there was big competition from Chinese counterfeits.

I'm curious if a "standard" Indo JS will come to the US or if they're stick with the JS24P as their low rent model?
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I think the JEM77P looks cool.
I'm not going to buy one.
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This could be very market-specific as well. The Jem Jr. was only ever sold in markets where there was big competition from Chinese counterfeits.

I'm curious if a "standard" Indo JS will come to the US or if they're stick with the JS24P as their low rent model?
I haven't seen anything official on the JS140 for the U.S. yet, but the Vai newsletter seems to imply the Jem Jr. is coming here:

"Lastly, the Jem Jr. is now the most affordable Ibanez Jem and is going to be available worldwide."

So I'd assume the JS140 is a possibility. It would have to be quite a bit cheaper than the 24P.
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Looks to be somewhat of a step up from the JS100 to me. The EZII trem is much better than the Edge III, plus a 24 fret JS neck... I'm interested. Might have alook for a used one in a couple of years. I've always wanted a JS guitar, but can't afford a nice one and the JS100 turned me away with the Edge III trem. (Although the new price of the 140 could buy a used JS1000) Can't say about the pickups on the 140... never had them.
It does sound like a measurable improvement. I hope the JS100 gets an upgrade to EZII. While I don't push it hard enough personally to make an Edge III go out of tune, I know there are plenty here who can brutalize it enough to lose tune like a standard Fender syncronized tremolo. The EZII should be more stable for the heavier stuff than Edge III. It's an improvement many here have suggested in the first place.

There's a happy EZII user I read on Ibanez forum who had Rich Harris set it up. I think a big part of that is who sets up your trem.
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Re: New JS140

My guess would be that the JS140 would replace the JS100.
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My guess would be that the JS140 would replace the JS100.
That would be terrible.

The 24 frets of the JS140 pushes a full sized neck humbucker too far inward towards the direction of the bridge so it loses its fullness thus the use of a double rail, single sized humbucker in neck of the 140.

But when you have a shorter neck with just 22 frets you could place the full sized neck humbucker further from bridge and get that sweet spot as evidenced by a lot of 22 neck superstrats, Les Pauls, 335s, and SGs. The double rail, single sized humbucker where it is on 24 fret neck attempts so get a similar sound to regularly spaced pair of humbuckers on a 22 fret neck. The dual humbucker JS 100/1000/1200 is still the main design.
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The 100 is no longer available in the US as Joe continues to distance himself from everything 22 fret.
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See. Joe hates 22 frets and will probably seriously devalue the JS line over time by eliminating 22 frets altogether. Hope I'm wrong.
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See. Joe hates 22 frets and will probably seriously devalue the JS line over time by eliminating 22 frets altogether. Hope I'm wrong.
It's his signature line and if Joe wants all of his models to sport 24 frets and the single coil rail in the neck then so be it. That full humbucker in the neck of the 22 fret model sounds so good so I would hate to see it go.

Gibson tried to get a 24 fret Les Paul and SG but most people hated it and continued to buy the 22 fret Gibsons. A big part of that sound is the ultra fat full sized humbucker in the neck as would be spaced with 22 frets. I don't know if Joe will keep at least one model with 22 frets and a properly spaced neck humbucker but only time will tell. I have never found any double rail or stacked single coil to sound that good on cleans because it never got a true full sized humbucker sound yet it never got the clear sounding single coil tone either. It's a fat sounding single coil which tends to lack clarity in most cases but on the plus side it's beefier than a overwound single coil.

I wonder what would happen if Joe offered a 24 fret model with two full sized humbuckers? Plenty of guitars these days do and there's enough of a market outside of Gibson to buy such guitars.
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