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post #16 of 28 (permalink) Old 01-19-2008, 09:28 AM
 
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Re: New Tremolo for 2008 prestiges?

I'm looking forward to trying the EZ as well as hearing about it from Rich. I hope to hear from Rich first, after he gets to autopsy one of course.

His first thought about the new lock nut has me a little worried (front angle might break strings) but I'm not going to get my panties in a bunch until after these start hitting shelves over the next couple months.

The design looks cool and very low profile.

I do find it a little geeky that we get so excited over these things (hell I get excited over just about anything guitar related even stupid things like cases and cables ).
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Do you mean this?


I've seen it quite a while ago...
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CG, if you were talking to me, that's not the lock nut I was referring to. I was talking about the one that Ibanez is actually using.

The font angle has been increased on the base, so the strings now bend over that edge. The redesign was done to remove the need for a string retainer bar behind the nut.

If the new lock nut turns out to be a string breaker, I'll be interested in knowing if the old design can be retro-fitted and then possibly re-drilling for the retainer bar also. Time will tell. Richs' site is under maintenance at the moment.
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Do you mean this?

I've seen it quite a while ago...
No, that was a test bed a few years ago.
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CG, if you were talking to me, that's not the lock nut I was referring to. I was talking about the one that Ibanez is actually using.

The font angle has been increased on the base, so the strings now bend over that edge. The redesign was done to remove the need for a string retainer bar behind the nut.

If the new lock nut turns out to be a string breaker, I'll be interested in knowing if the old design can be retro-fitted and then possibly re-drilling for the retainer bar also. Time will tell. Richs' site is under maintenance at the moment.
Actually, this touches on something I was curious about. Is the angled Ibanez headstock not at enough of an angle to eliminate the need for the string retainer bar?

The reason I ask is my friend's Custom Shop Jackson Soloist doesn't have a retainer bar on it and the headstock angle doesn't appear to be very different from my JEM.

(Sorry if this should be in the tech section, but Screamingdemon69's post reminded me of this.)
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Wow, that's pretty cool, is this bridge custom?! Or can you buy one... just curious.
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Wow, that's pretty cool, is this bridge custom?! Or can you buy one... just curious.
Cool????
That's pretty much the ugliest trem I've ever seen
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Good, that linear trem was ugly as sin.
thats for agreeing with me hahah, I hope Steve's trem he is working on kicks some major arse, If steve is happy with it I know I will be too so I'll probably get one. If it is swappable with the EP (which I figure it wont be) but if it is, I might just switch my trem over
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Actually, this touches on something I was curious about. Is the angled Ibanez headstock not at enough of an angle to eliminate the need for the string retainer bar?

The reason I ask is my friend's Custom Shop Jackson Soloist doesn't have a retainer bar on it and the headstock angle doesn't appear to be very different from my JEM.

(Sorry if this should be in the tech section, but Screamingdemon69's post reminded me of this.)
I believe the headstock angle is just right for leaving off the retainer bar and possibly the reason for not havng done it in the past is the angle of the locknut. Ibanez has now redesigned the locknut so the angle now works better to leave off the string tree.
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I believe the headstock angle is just right for leaving off the retainer bar and possibly the reason for not havng done it in the past is the angle of the locknut. Ibanez has now redesigned the locknut so the angle now works better to leave off the string tree.
O.K. Than makes sense. Thanks for the answer.
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I like Rich's explanation on "feel" of the new trem (in another thread), I haven't tried it yet but with all the gagetry in the front and back, I don't believe I'll be a fan of it just from what i've seen so far.

Still the question remains, when will Steve Vai's new trem be released and on what guitar? Jem? I can't see him releasing it on anything else but his sig axe.

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Still the question remains, when will Steve Vai's new trem be released and on what guitar? Jem? I can't see him releasing it on anything else but his sig axe.

Anton Zedd.
Maybe at Summer Namm if it's ready.

I would think the new trem would have to be on Jems, and because Ibanez just added a new trem to the RG2000+ Prestige guitars, I don't see Vai's new design making it to anything else anytime soon. All speculation of course.

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I like Rich's explanation on "feel" of the new trem (in another thread), I haven't tried it yet but with all the gagetry in the front and back, I don't believe I'll be a fan of it just from what i've seen so far.

Still the question remains, when will Steve Vai's new trem be released and on what guitar? Jem? I can't see him releasing it on anything else but his sig axe.

Anton Zedd.
It's piqued my intererst because if you look at it, it could sit on the top six strings of my RG2228 while the bottom two could be hard mounted with two single string saddles... something I've been contimplating for a while now.
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