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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-27-2010, 10:30 PM Thread Starter
 
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Is it real?

I just bought this guitar. It should arrive in 2 weeks. It looks real to me, but I am not an expert.
Any help?

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Also, is the box same as the one Ibanez ships their product in?
And, where can I verify the serial number?

Thanks in advance.
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post #2 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-27-2010, 10:33 PM
 
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Re: Is it real?

Looks real to me. It has the 5 piece Prestige neck and J-Craft stamp. Grip looks right. If its a fake, I'd say its a convincing one, but I haven't seen all the fakes some others have.
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post #3 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-27-2010, 10:37 PM
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100% fake, and the same pictures the jackwad selling on Amazon is using.
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post #4 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-27-2010, 10:41 PM
 
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bad AANJ screw placement... wrong screw holes for the rear jack cavity cover... spring cavity cover is wrong.
The J-craft stamp looks funny...
ouch dude, i hope you didn't spend an arm on it... get a refund immediately!

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Yep, it's a fake.
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post #6 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-27-2010, 10:49 PM
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Whats with people asking if a guitar is a fake AFTER they bought it lately?
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post #7 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-27-2010, 11:04 PM
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Also the headstock logo looks wonky as well.
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post #8 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-27-2010, 11:19 PM
 
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Re: Is it real?

But the box seems legit to me.

How much did you pay?
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post #9 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-27-2010, 11:47 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Is it real?

Paid $500, and my MC guarantees refund if it is fraud.

I may loose on shipping charges, but that depends on the Canada Post if they accept "return to sender".

Just battling with the decision to cancell the order, or return to sender, or take it home and examine it really close. If the hardware is original (pickups, tuners, electronics and tremolo) then it must be original (so I am convincing myself =;-)
A friend of mine has the same model Jem and has pointed out the jack cover screws, as well as locking nut screws (not through neck), bridge cover screw location, but those may be variations because of the year of production, outsourcing etc.

It is hard to compare the inlays and logo from the picture. The scallops were on some of them while on the others were not according to some posts on this forum.

There is so much confusion and conflicting information here, and the fakers got to be so good at faking it, that with the proper hardware, copies are as good as the originals. Does it matter then if you buy original or replica? Are we getting into similar situation as during the Gibson/Fender Japanise copies lawsuit era?
Remember, Japanese producing copies of instruments superior to originals?

Yeah, I know, I know it does matter.

Thank you for advice, keep it coming as I am leaning towards taking it home for close examination.

Is there a place to verify serial number on that thing?
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post #10 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-27-2010, 11:51 PM
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I think you should have paid attention to the "100% fake". There is no conflicting information here, except somebody always makes a comment when they're not qualified to.

It has been verified, 100% fake. $52 + shipping from China. Anybody that expects a real [new or used] VWH for $500 is just not thinking straight.
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If Rich says it's fake, it's fake.

No, the situation isn't the same as the Japanese knock offs in the 70s. Those weren't being sold passed off as the real thing, (and the so called superiority of the Japanese copies is debatable at best). The hardware isn't original, and there is no outsourcing or production year differences there.

If your happy with it more power to you, but the long and short of it is you got screwed and are now the owner of illegal merchandise.

Good luck trying to sell it if you don't like it.
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post #12 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-28-2010, 12:08 AM
 
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bro, this thing is 550% fake. one glance at the very first picture will tell you that. the bridge is way off and the headstock shape is wrong. the "team j. craft" logo is slightly wrong. the cutouts in the backplate for the springs are completely wrong.

it's faker than pamela anderson's boobs (as we like to say here...)

get that **** cancelled.
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post #13 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-28-2010, 12:18 AM
 
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I may loose on shipping charges, but that depends on the Canada Post if they accept "return to sender".


Since this is a fraud, maybe MC will also claim the shipping fees to the sender.

When the mailman will come at your door, refuse the parcel, DON'T OPEN IT and leave it intact or you will be stuck with it. Canada Post will send it back to the sender and he will pay the shipping charges for the returning item.

Here are some info
http://www.postescanada.ca/cpo/mc/pe....jsf?LOCALE=en
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post #14 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-28-2010, 12:33 AM Thread Starter
 
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I am an old fool =;-), bought the story and got blinded by my own greed.
...but if you call me that I will kick your ass =;-)

Cancelled the order with Amazon.com .
No problems at all, they sent me an e-mail confirmation of the cancellation.
Thank you all for quick reply to my post and saving me the hassle.
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post #15 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-28-2010, 12:37 AM
 
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So you were the guy that bought the "refurbished" Jem7VWH for $500?? I saw that guitar on there a week or so ago. Figured it was a fake, plus a good tip was the seller had "recently launched" status. Never a good sign. At least you got your denero back.

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