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post #16 of 22 (permalink) Old 02-27-2008, 07:21 PM
 
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all the things they said, plus check the height of your pickups...
height is very important and for many is overlooked and not noticed.

If your pups are too high, while on the clean channel when you pick hard you'll get a slight muddy distorted sound called and reffered to as 'wolftone"

you want the pupas slanted a bit, higher on the thinner strings so the pup can pick up the quieter sound. and lower on the thicker strings so that it doesn't get muddy when strumming chords.
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Well I didn't really like the flat neck personally, and other specs on the jem compared to my PRS. the tone wasn't really something I was amazed about either. My PRS has a wide fat neck and is comfortable. I had issues with the white one I've owned before, and it wasn't because of the floating trem. the paint seemed so cheap, and it was obvious many people played with it, and I got tired of paying 40 bucks each month to have it constantly setup playing perfectly. However I didn't like the sustain of the jem. My PRS, having a stoptail had more sustain, and a thicker tone and not bright and plinky sounding, and it was to die for. Sure I use my jem as a backup. I do not believe jems are the best guitars out there. but that is just my personal taste.

I don't use the floyd at all.
I didn't like having to pay everytime strings cahnge. however having an old RG a while back ago over the years I was taught by my Ibanez dealer how to set guitars up. I just don't feel like taking 20 mins mininumun to have a guitar playing perfectly, along with adjusting the springs if one day I feel like using 11's ansd one day using 12's or 10's. Besides the floatinf trem cannot handle 12's at all, its too much for the jem to handle unless the tremolo is blocked.

I just like to change the string once well setup so I don't have to worry much. i always change my strings at least once a month. sometimes more.

My current blue jem has a blocked trem and I love it now because I'm free ferom the tuning hassles and longer string changes. and if I break a sring on stage I won't get the bhell way out of tune.

and the sustain with the blocked trem is amazing.
Then why get a Jem in the first place, it just seems to me like you have no reason for owning such an expensive super strat to start off. Back up guitars should be 550`s and such, not an expensive guitar. Again that`s personal and i don`t know how much money you have to throw around at guitars. My jem`s have more sustain than any of my hardtails or my gibson. I love my gibson too, but it`s just not modern enough to handle all of my desires. I just keep it around for classic rock, bluesy hard rock tone and the occaisional rhythm track, ahogany has a solid tone for rhythm anyways. And as far as tuning goes, i don`t see what you mean. My guitar will stay in tune for six months with fine tune adjustments every week or so maybe. And believe, i give that trem 2 hours of chaos every day. My Gibson gets out of tune after a few songs. And it`s only off by a few cents. I am probably more anal about the tuning of my axes than you are. Anyways, it`s up to you which you like betterm but your points seem ill supported. On another note, a floating trem can take 12`s lol. Ever heard of the springs behind the guitar ? Yeah , you need to tighten those when you add more string tension.

I know there is more work on floating trems but i love what i do and i respect y music enough to give it a good clean hour of work on my axe every once in a while. And if my axe stays in tune for 4-6 months without any further adjustments than the fine tuners, than i think the ratio flat out kills anything a stop tail guitar could survive with the amount of abuse my instruments are subjected to. I mean, it seems simple enough to me 1 hr/6 months in tune.

Anyways good faring to you bro, but you should really open yourself to trems otherwise your jem is a useless pawn to your rig. You said you don`t much care for it`s tone or like the neck profile, so what`s left after that

think about it!
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Then why get a Jem in the first place, it just seems to me like you have no reason for owning such an expensive super strat to start off. Back up guitars should be 550`s and such, not an expensive guitar. Again that`s personal and i don`t know how much money you have to throw around at guitars. My jem`s have more sustain than any of my hardtails or my gibson. I love my gibson too, but it`s just not modern enough to handle all of my desires. I just keep it around for classic rock, bluesy hard rock tone and the occaisional rhythm track, ahogany has a solid tone for rhythm anyways. And as far as tuning goes, i don`t see what you mean. My guitar will stay in tune for six months with fine tune adjustments every week or so maybe. And believe, i give that trem 2 hours of chaos every day. My Gibson gets out of tune after a few songs. And it`s only off by a few cents. I am probably more anal about the tuning of my axes than you are. Anyways, it`s up to you which you like betterm but your points seem ill supported. On another note, a floating trem can take 12`s lol. Ever heard of the springs behind the guitar ? Yeah , you need to tighten those when you add more string tension.

I know there is more work on floating trems but i love what i do and i respect y music enough to give it a good clean hour of work on my axe every once in a while. And if my axe stays in tune for 4-6 months without any further adjustments than the fine tuners, than i think the ratio flat out kills anything a stop tail guitar could survive with the amount of abuse my instruments are subjected to. I mean, it seems simple enough to me 1 hr/6 months in tune.

Anyways good faring to you bro, but you should really open yourself to trems otherwise your jem is a useless pawn to your rig. You said you don`t much care for it`s tone or like the neck profile, so what`s left after that

think about it!
I just don't use trems at all haha.

I used to a while back ago but not anymore. when you're using an accrate tuner like a Perterson strober stomp, a slight useage of the bar (even well well setup) will get ya out of tune. I know a jem can handle 12's I had it setup once by the best tech in town and the tension was too much for the neck, as so said by my tech and he said unless you're using drop tunings using 12's on a floating trem guitar is pointless. I didn't feel as good as having 12's on my PRS.

I rather work on my technique than do alot of closet ****age.

back when I got the jem, I must admit I liked the look if it, (that was when I was still a noob and didn't know much) but the main thing that I hated was the thin flat neck. I like fat necks personally.

sure alot love jems, I just prefer my PRS.
I like it nice and simple yet versatile. I disliked the nmddle pup in the jem as well. not that it got in my way, I just don't use it at all, and I didn't need tall the extra stuff like a trem. I like it clean and simple.

my PRS has coil tapping, splitting the humbuckers on my PRS into single. Nopt quite sounding like a strat nor a gibson, but a nice balance in between.

when I first played PRS guitars I was like "what's special with these?" until I picked up mmy McCarty model and knew I had to get it.

the genre you play is probably different from mine, I don't see any use for me to use trems like I used to.
I prefer the sustain on a stoptail. if you're using a ridiculous amount of gain like vai, no one would really be able to tell the difference in sustain with that muxch gain.

but here's to everyone and their own.

btw the trem on my jem is currently nlocked, so I don't have the tuning and trem hassles anymmore, even with an accurate tuner like a peterson.

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Jim your a show off !
Thats a nice looking Jem.
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I just don't use trems at all haha.

I used to a while back ago but not anymore. when you're using an accrate tuner like a Perterson strober stomp, a slight useage of the bar (even well well setup) will get ya out of tune. I know a jem can handle 12's I had it setup once by the best tech in town and the tension was too much for the neck, as so said by my tech and he said unless you're using drop tunings using 12's on a floating trem guitar is pointless. I didn't feel as good as having 12's on my PRS.

I rather work on my technique than do alot of closet ****age.

back when I got the jem, I must admit I liked the look if it, (that was when I was still a noob and didn't know much) but the main thing that I hated was the thin flat neck. I like fat necks personally.

sure alot love jems, I just prefer my PRS.
I like it nice and simple yet versatile. I disliked the nmddle pup in the jem as well. not that it got in my way, I just don't use it at all, and I didn't need tall the extra stuff like a trem. I like it clean and simple.

my PRS has coil tapping, splitting the humbuckers on my PRS into single. Nopt quite sounding like a strat nor a gibson, but a nice balance in between.

when I first played PRS guitars I was like "what's special with these?" until I picked up mmy McCarty model and knew I had to get it.

the genre you play is probably different from mine, I don't see any use for me to use trems like I used to.
I prefer the sustain on a stoptail. if you're using a ridiculous amount of gain like vai, no one would really be able to tell the difference in sustain with that muxch gain.

but here's to everyone and their own.

btw the trem on my jem is currently nlocked, so I don't have the tuning and trem hassles anymmore, even with an accurate tuner like a peterson.
Thanks for the insight bro. And you`re right, different strokes for different folks. I love all my guitars and that is why i chose them. I got my les Paul on my lap and im about to tear her up. P.S. i seriously increased sustain and tuning stability by adding the L6 Gibson stop tail. It`s got fine tuners and it`s got a wicked deeper tone too, i believe the extra mass helps a lot. I love my axes and you love yours, the rest is the notes you fret or don`t So let`s raise our glasses to Rock!

Nuff said
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Wow! Very nice, did they drop right in or did you have to mod the scratchplate?
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