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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 04-15-2004, 04:38 AM Thread Starter
 
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Should I trade my JEM on a JS?

Hey guys. I bought my 7VWH new from Rich in October last year... shipped all the way to Glasgow, Scotland. Now while I think its an excellent guitar, the more I play it, the more I'm bothered by its Elvis like looks. I know thats a bit silly, but there you go.

So I've been thinking, maybe I should chat to Rich about trading it on a JS1200CA or a new UV? Now I'm not sure that a UV is a sensible guitar choice, as I probably dont need 7 strings, heck I struggle with 6. But the 1200CA is a nice looking guitar. Course, the JEM is worth a lot more in monetary terms isn't it?

Any advice?

Rich, I tried clicking on your auto-emailer thing for price quotes, but got nothing back, is everything working at your end?
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post #2 of 30 (permalink) Old 04-15-2004, 05:21 AM
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The auto emailer works and I had a reply in 3 seconds.
What you must have done is entered the wrong email address.

My advice would be to ebay the VWH here in the UK and just buy a brand new JS1200CA from Rich.

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post #3 of 30 (permalink) Old 04-15-2004, 05:33 AM Thread Starter
 
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it seems like it doesnt like my personal email address. i've tried it from my laptop and my desktop and I get no emails. tried a dozen times over the past week. and my email address is working, i checked.

put my company email address in and it worked just fine. very wierd.

you are correct though, the cost of shipping him my guitar would negate the savings I'd make by buying from him.

i dunno. maybe i'll hold off selling mine till I see what the 50th anni JEM is going to turn out like. if its awesome then i'll sell mine on ebay and send rich an order. if its not then i'll sell mine and get a 1200CA with the money.
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post #4 of 30 (permalink) Old 04-15-2004, 06:18 AM
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I don't think we will see the 50,000 Jem special for a bit yet.
It took them 16 years to sell 45,000 and don't forget, Steve was considdered god between 1987-1993 so I would say that at least 2 years before there is a 50,000 edition.

ilia
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very true Dex.

time for a think. my local dealer has a JS Burnt Blue... not the prettiest JS, but I might have a go on it to see what I think.
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Hi zerolight. Good to see another Scot on here! I've never had the pleasure of playing a JS so it's difficult to know the answer. What I did do last year was finally trade my '89 Jem 777VBK in for a new UV777PBK and I can highly recommend one. I had much the same problem really. The black and green of the Jem seemed so cool in'93 when I bought it, but 10 years later just seemed too in-your-face! The Uni is a different beast altogether. So much class yet on the subtle side of flashy so I'm always proud, rather than embarassed, to be seen playing it Everyone that sees it has only one thing to say- "Beautiful".

In addition, the tone, especially the clean tones, is far in advance of the '89 Jem. I was always secretly disappointed in the VBK. It was just a bit to thin, lacking low end response and really didn't like to play with any conviction on the bridge p/u. The neck had a lovely fluid sound, but the two seemed so mismatched. The Uni, on the otherhand, has SO much more depth, sustain, resonance, it's just so much better I couldn't believe it. I know the Evos in the VWH are a lot ballsier than the old PAF Pros, and I actually want to buy a VWH as a second guitar, but do try and find a Uni to try. Ignore the whole 7 string thing. You don't have to use it, and you adapt very quickly to it as well. If anything, I use it far more playing clean, especially through my GT6 with the effects doing lots of delay/chorus/spacey sounds. It also means I don't have to buy a bass and save some money Just doing a pitch shift on the GT6 and using the lower string gives a lovely approximation

Of course, I also fancy adding a JS to my collection, but the wife might disown me Not to mention an EB/MM Luke, but we can always dream. Though the Uni is so versatile, I really don't need another guitar.

Try one, I hope you'll be impressed!

BTW, which store do you use? I've been using Sound Control in Edinburgh, though the new one in Corstorphine ("Guitarguitar") has me intrigued as it means no more manic lunchtime trips into town. Just park at PC World.
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Sounds like you may be running spam filters that are catching the quotes?
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Sounds like you may be running spam filters that are catching the quotes?
good point. let me change it a bit. i get a lot of unwanted porn spam see... and I suppose Ibanez info is a certain kind of porn. the good kind of course. erm... i'll get my coat.
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Hi zerolight. Good to see another Scot on here! I've never had the pleasure of playing a JS so it's difficult to know the answer. What I did do last year was finally trade my '89 Jem 777VBK in for a new UV777PBK and I can highly recommend one. I had much the same problem really. The black and green of the Jem seemed so cool in'93 when I bought it, but 10 years later just seemed too in-your-face! The Uni is a different beast altogether. So much class yet on the subtle side of flashy so I'm always proud, rather than embarassed, to be seen playing it Everyone that sees it has only one thing to say- "Beautiful".

In addition, the tone, especially the clean tones, is far in advance of the '89 Jem. I was always secretly disappointed in the VBK. It was just a bit to thin, lacking low end response and really didn't like to play with any conviction on the bridge p/u. The neck had a lovely fluid sound, but the two seemed so mismatched. The Uni, on the otherhand, has SO much more depth, sustain, resonance, it's just so much better I couldn't believe it. I know the Evos in the VWH are a lot ballsier than the old PAF Pros, and I actually want to buy a VWH as a second guitar, but do try and find a Uni to try. Ignore the whole 7 string thing. You don't have to use it, and you adapt very quickly to it as well. If anything, I use it far more playing clean, especially through my GT6 with the effects doing lots of delay/chorus/spacey sounds. It also means I don't have to buy a bass and save some money Just doing a pitch shift on the GT6 and using the lower string gives a lovely approximation

Of course, I also fancy adding a JS to my collection, but the wife might disown me Not to mention an EB/MM Luke, but we can always dream. Though the Uni is so versatile, I really don't need another guitar.

Try one, I hope you'll be impressed!

BTW, which store do you use? I've been using Sound Control in Edinburgh, though the new one in Corstorphine ("Guitarguitar") has me intrigued as it means no more manic lunchtime trips into town. Just park at PC World.
SoundControl in Glasgow mostly, and McCormicks. Neither have a UV. McCormicks have a Burnt Blue JS though. Having said that, I bought my JEM from ibanezrules and my PRS from wildwoodguitars. if I had the money I'd take that lovely JS Crystal Planet. mmm. However I am very tempted to sell the VWH and order a 1200CA from Rich.
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like most jem players you pay too much attention to looks
(now you ALL will hate me :P - i'm just kiddin' though)

don't buy a JS before you've played it. most ppl love it but some - especially those accustomed to thin necks like the one on the JEM - don't.

it's basically a stratocaster neck with the cool compound radius thing (check this board to see what it is... i'm typing enough anyways).

spend an hour or two playing this JS1000BTB your local store has - but be sure it's a JS1000, no JS100 which is the 555 of JS's (ok, mb not THAT bad).

if you like responsiveness in a guitar, the fred (dimarzio fred, bridge PU in JS guitars) will be the right thing for you. the neck pickup on this JS1000 will be a bit different to the one in the JS1200CA, though as joe got his new "paf joe" instead of the paf pro. i don't know how much difference there is, actually. try to get ahold of some reviews or tests. maybe rich could let us know his opinion, too. certainly you play a 1200?

last but not least i gotta warn you, though: having played the JS every other guitar neck will feel kind of "wrong" to you

just the 2 cents of a delighted JS90th owner.
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Uhhh

JS - 19mm - 21mm
VWH - 19mm - 21mm

The only difference is in the shape of the back and the fact the Jem neck is wider, and the 430mm radius compared to the 250mm of course
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just the 2 cents of a delighted JS90th owner.
While reading your pretty long post I just WAITED for you to mention your 90th another time. Ta-daaa.
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post #13 of 30 (permalink) Old 04-15-2004, 02:21 PM
 
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SoundControl in Glasgow mostly, and McCormicks. Neither have a UV.
I'm afraid Edinburgh is no better. I had to order my UV directly through SC, though they at least gave a good trade in for the JEM. If you're in either store soon, can you let me know if they have an Ernie Ball Musicman Luke in stock? Really want to try one.

If you can't find a JS, try Scayles in Edinburgh. Haven't been in for a while but they had loads in September/October. THey're just up from the Odeon cinema on South Clerk street, though the address is actually St Patricks Square.
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My personal suggestion would be: Dont!

Im no fan of the 7VWH looks, but is is an amazing instrument, far more expensive than the JS1200.

A los of people would gladly swap a UV777BK for a 7VWH, not to mention a JS.

Why dont you sell your 7VWH and then buy another guitar from Rich?
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post #15 of 30 (permalink) Old 04-15-2004, 04:06 PM
 
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My advice would be simply if you realy like the jems tones and playability just sell it and get a jem7vsbl.

well if you like the vsbl looks that is
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