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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-01-2002, 10:08 PM Thread Starter
 
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Side dots on Jem7vwh

I did a search, but I didn't come up with anything, but if this topis has been previously discussed, plesae let me know.

Are the side dots on a 7vwh, as well as all other Jems actual inlay or are they painted dots? I'm getting ready to strip the finish off the neck of my 7vwh and I want to be sure. If they're inlays, then there's nothing to worry about. If they're painted, then i may have a problem.

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i don't have an axe handy to double check, but it doesn't matter... when stripping the neck finish, there is no reason to touch the side markers... concentrate on the maple neck ...glen
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Post subject: Side dots on Jem7vwh

I just checked my 7vwh and the side dots are inlays. I can tell because the one for the fifth fret you can feel the edge of it with your fingernail I guess they did not sand that one good enough on mine.
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I looked at mine with a magnifying glass, definately painted. It's an '01.
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I just checked an 01', definately white plastic. I've never seen a Jem with painted markers.
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They are all inlays, doing side dot inlays is so easy, drill a 1/16" or 3/32" hole, drop in the length of rod, cut it flush, sand it, boom done. Paint wouldn't last for **** on the side, I guarantee they are all inlaid.
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This is something that I raised a few months ago when I posted re stripping the neck on my Vwh. I never did it in the end because I was worried about removing the dots with the finish.

Mine definitely look like they have been painted on and not inlaid. It looks like the laquer on the back of the neck has continued over the edge of the fingerboard to protect the dots from rubbing off. The grain of the wood can actually be seen through the dots where the white paint has sunk in. They definiety, absolutely, positively, 100% not inlays on my guitar!

It's '96 Vwh btw.
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Mine definitely look like they have been painted on and not inlaid. It looks like the laquer on the back of the neck has continued over the edge of the fingerboard to protect the dots from rubbing off. The grain of the wood can actually be seen through the dots where the white paint has sunk in. They definiety, absolutely, positively, 100% not inlays on my guitar!

Same thing on my UV7 PWH ('90). I can't say if it's paint or something else, but not inlays... Furthermore, as there's no laquer on the neck, it's not very good looking anymore - But I'm still in love !
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You're probably seeing the sanding lines still visible in the plastic.
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You're probably seeing the sanding lines still visible in the plastic.
If they were sanding lines then Ibanez Quality Control has gone right out of the window! They are simply too deep and follow individual grains and inpressions in the wood perfectly.

I wish I had a digital camera!!!
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They're inlays, look at them again, and again, till you can see the slight distrubance of the wood at the sides of the inlays from the drill.
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My magnifying glass is in my bag ready to have a closer inspection when I get home tonight. I'll let you know what I find. If they are inlays then the neck is getting stripped pronto!

BTW. I'm not trying to be argumentative here . The dots just dont look like plastic inlays I have ever seen on any guitar. As I said, they follow the grain of the wood perfectly.

Thanks for the advice.

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Checked.... (my last post was written from the office), and yes, Mr Rich is once again right : inlays they are.... (on the PWH). I'll write a 100 times : I shall not contradict Rich Harris when talking about Jems / UVs, I shall not contradict Rich Harris when talking about Jems / UVs, I shall not contradict Rich Harris when talking about Jems / UVs,.... (OK, I admit it was copied / pasted ).

But yes, I only could say that they were actually inlays after taking a close look, and the general impression (that they were not inlays) I had after 1.5 year of ownership was sincere. I think it is due to the fact that those dots yellowished a lot (maybe a lack of UV protection (I mean UltraViolet, not Universe ) in the raw material used for those plastic inlays, and also to the fact that some of them are scratched with (sanding ?) lines that strangely follow the grain of the wood, giving the impression of a cracks in a paint coating.

Anyway, I shall not contradict Rich Harris when talking about Jems / UVs, I shall not contradict Rich Harris when talking about Jems / UVs, I shall not contradict Rich Harris when talking about Jems / UVs,....
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The reason the sanding lines in the plastic follow the "grain" lines, is they are probably not actually grain lines, but lines in the wood also from sanding. All that says is that they did not polish out the sanding scratches that well. But, as I said too, they are inlays, it would be faster to do inlays like that than to paint them on. Simple as that!
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Feel free to contradict me whenever you want!! There's only one thing I'm 100% sure of, and that's that I'll never be 100% right!
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