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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 07-20-2010, 11:05 AM Thread Starter
 
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Slight G-string buzz after tightening the pressure pad

Hi guys,

I recently bought a used 7VSBL and thanks to Rich's instructions in his web site, I am close to setting it up perfectly for me (about 0.25 mm relief at 9th with 2mm action low-E side and about 1.8mm on the high-E, with a perfect trem angle).

Anyways, one small problem remains after all the tweaks. When I tighten the pressure pad on the D-G strings there is a slight buzz coming from the clean G string (no buzz when the pad is removed or at any other frets). I found that this situation can be remedied by tightening the pressure pad rotated 90 degrees. It is interesting that changing the position of the pads did not do any good, so I am pretty sure it is not the pad that is the problem.

Is tightening the pad this way going to have an adverse effect on the NUT in the long term? What do you think the root of the problem might be?

Thanks,
Sean.
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Re: Slight G-string buzz after tightening the pressure pad

There is something kinda wrong about the title of this thread :-p .

Not sure about the cause, but you seem to be moving in the right direction.

Hey, SeanC, any relation to Sean Carpenter???
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lol haven't noticed until you pointed out And no, no relations to any Sean Carpenters.
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Re: Slight G-string buzz after tightening the pressure pad

1)Chance out pressure pads and see if it makes a difference.
2)Check if your lockingnut is fastend correctly with the screws on the back of the neck.
3)Adjust the stringtree so the string will follow the whole curve of the lockingnut.

Good luck!
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1)Chance out pressure pads and see if it makes a difference.
2)Check if your lockingnut is fastend correctly with the screws on the back of the neck.
3)Adjust the stringtree so the string will follow the whole curve of the lockingnut.

Good luck!
Already tried (1) and it didn't make any difference. Locking nut is fastened correctly as well.

Haven't thought about adjusting the stringtree though. I will try it tonight. Thanks!
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Re: Slight G-string buzz after tightening the pressure pad

Ok, adjusting the stringtree didn't help as well. I am open to other suggestions.

(I feel like getting a new nut and pressure pads will solve the problem completely, but don't want to go that route unless absolutely necessary. Or I will just keep tightening the pressure pad rotated 90 degrees)...
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Re: Slight G-string buzz after tightening the pressure pad

Take a pick and press down on the string at the edge of the nut and check then.
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Re: Slight G-string buzz after tightening the pressure pad

Thanks Rich, I still get a slight buzz after doing what you suggested, but I think this is because I cannot press down hard enough with the pick with one hand while picking with the other.

The only solution that has worked for me so far is simply tightening the pressure pad rotated 90 degrees. Is this something that I should refrain from doing?
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Re: Slight G-string buzz after tightening the pressure pad

It doesn't lock the strings if you rotate it 90 degrees. Take a look at the pad's bottom.. It's a bit curved, so it matches perfectly with the locking nuts shape..
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Re: Slight G-string buzz after tightening the pressure pad

Loosen the truss rod to rule out first fret buzz.
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It doesn't lock the strings if you rotate it 90 degrees. Take a look at the pad's bottom.. It's a bit curved, so it matches perfectly with the locking nuts shape..
I am aware of the slight curve underneath the pad to mate perfectly with the NUT, but the guitar stays in perfect tune even when the pad is installed as described.

To check, I loosed the tuners with the pad installed as it is (rotated), dive bombed a few times, and it still comes back to tune %100.

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Loosen the truss rod to rule out first fret buzz.
Maybe I misunderstood your previous post, but there is no first fret buzz (or any other fret buzz for that matter) at all. The buzz is there only when the pad is installed the correct way and when the G-string played empty.
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Re: Slight G-string buzz after tightening the pressure pad

In that case)

Are the bolts of the pads all original?
Could be there to long and hit the neckwood so they don't fasten enough.
No dents on the pads or on the nut ,or wornout screwholes,bolts??
If not,.... i think u need to replace the nut.
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In that case)

Are the bolts of the pads all original?
Could be there to long and hit the neckwood so they don't fasten enough.
No dents on the pads or on the nut ,or wornout screwholes,bolts??
If not,.... i think u need to replace the nut.
All bolts are original. No dents on the nut, screw holes and bolts seem to be in good condition, however there are "grooves" underneath the pads that I believe were caused by the strings over time or due to over-tightening of the pads by the previous owner.

So I guess I will change out the strings first, if that doesn't do it, I will order a new pad from Rich, and finally a nut if that doesn't do it either.
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There is something kinda wrong about the title of this thread :-p
1-Truss your rod
2-Replace your nuts
3-press her pad
4-take the G-string off
5-Get a good buzz going on
6-Play with her all night long

Oh wait, you meant guitar stuff? My bad!
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Re: Slight G-string buzz after tightening the pressure pad

lol well played!
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