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post #1 of 100 (permalink) Old 09-08-2016, 06:32 PM Thread Starter
 
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Sunken paint on the latest JS2410 and 2450's?

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A couple of years ago I had a JS2410, fantastic work of art let down by the sunken paint issue, as did every other JS2410 I could find for sale in the UK at that time (appreciate that Rich always rejected these and was able to find some without the problem).

Anyway, just wondering if this is still evident on the latest JS2450's in purple or black, as they also have alder bodies - or has the problem now been eradicated by different production techniques?

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Re: Sunken paint on the latest JS2410 and 2450's?

The problem still persists. I rejected 2 MCB's for lines, and one of them had what painters call "weeping" which is micro cloudy patches caused by too much humidity is an air conditioned paint environment [or so it was explained to me by a painter]. So if the lines bother you carefully check for them, and weeping.
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Re: Sunken paint on the latest JS2410 and 2450's?

Ive been lucky with my MCP and MCB.... Im yet to see a 2410 without them.... maybe the darker colours just hide them better, im lucky they dont bother me.... finding a mint 2410 is like finding a pristine 10th!
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Re: Sunken paint on the latest JS2410 and 2450's?

I think my 2410 is fine. Rich do you remember it? It was the second year NAMM show guitar
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Re: Sunken paint on the latest JS2410 and 2450's?

I think your eyes are better than my memory?
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Re: Sunken paint on the latest JS2410 and 2450's?

Yeah, I think it's fine but I have never actually seen the sink lines so I'm not sure what they look like but I believe my 2410 is fine.
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Re: Sunken paint on the latest JS2410 and 2450's?

If you hold the guitar at an angle to a good light source you'll see dozens of parallel lines running along the body from top to bottom. They tend to be concentrated in certain areas. If they aren't obvious then you don't have them!
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Re: Sunken paint on the latest JS2410 and 2450's?

do the alder JS bodies have a basswood veneer on top (to protect the finish)?
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Re: Sunken paint on the latest JS2410 and 2450's?

No. I believe Rich suggested that they should if I remember correctly from a previous thread.
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Re: Sunken paint on the latest JS2410 and 2450's?

makes sense, hard to veneer the contoured JS body but if you sit around examining guitars with magnifying glasses under 1000w lamps you won't ever enjoy an axe anyways. These are player guitars. just sayin' ... glen
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Re: Sunken paint on the latest JS2410 and 2450's?

When I had my JS2410 a couple of years ago, I thought mine was free of that issue. About a year later I began to notice the sink lines under any type of basic lighting and there were many of them and easily noticeable. I should have taken a few more pics of them. I ended up selling it after that. Not that it is a performance issue at all, I just wasn't happy paying that much for a guitar with a fairly large flaw like that. I know that you can notice tons of flaws on any guitar and I don't have an issue with it for the most part, but it was on both the back and the front.

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I dont even think of it as a flaw, it just 'is'...play them enjoy them, its the sound that matters
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Re: Sunken paint on the latest JS2410 and 2450's?

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but if you sit around examining guitars with magnifying glasses under 1000w lamps you won't ever enjoy an axe anyways. These are player guitars. just sayin' ... glen
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Not that it is a performance issue at all, I just wasn't happy paying that much for a guitar with a fairly large flaw like that. I know that you can notice tons of flaws on any guitar and I don't have an issue with it for the most part, but it was on both the back and the front.
Player, case queen, it doesn't matter, they're not cheap guitars and nobody wants to feel like they paid a lot for something and then be unhappy about it cosmetically. So dismissing it by just saying they're players guitars is ridiculous. Players guitars, unless you have every intention of turning them into relics, can look perfect after a decade of play, unless they don't even look perfect when you buy it.

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I dont even think of it as a flaw, it just 'is'...play them enjoy them, its the sound that matters
And you are always the exception. It's not just the sound, it's not just the playability. It's also a beautiful guitar and if you're bothered by sink lines which can be seen in any light, then it's not as beautiful as it should be.
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Re: Sunken paint on the latest JS2410 and 2450's?

Flaw is in the owner.
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A car is an expensive piece of equipment too, can either enjoy it or spend your life stressing over every scratch and flaw.
If paint lines upset you, dont buy it, or look for a perfect example to buy
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