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post #1 of 335 (permalink) Old 01-04-2003, 08:27 PM Thread Starter
 
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swirl tutorial ?

I was looking at the guitar gallery and all those swirl paints ...
is there a tutorial to do a swirl paint somewhere on the web ? I searched the forum, projectguitar.com and all but i can't find one... (right now I can't figure at all how they do it)
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post #2 of 335 (permalink) Old 01-04-2003, 09:38 PM
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I've done a search on Google and there really isn't much...also try doing a search here on the JEMSITE. I'm sure there are other threads discussing it ;-)
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post #3 of 335 (permalink) Old 01-04-2003, 09:46 PM
 
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ive never done it, and am most likely skipping out on some things, but after stripping the body of hardware, and old paint, you fill a tub with water, and on the surface, put the paints you want to use ,and spin the body around(but im not sure if water is what the bottom liquid is.)
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post #4 of 335 (permalink) Old 01-04-2003, 11:13 PM
 
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Don't forget sealing the body.
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post #5 of 335 (permalink) Old 01-05-2003, 12:57 AM
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I'm getting set to do a swirl on my JS. The trick is the paint .
Strip down guitar of paint, I keep the factory sealint as much I can. Get a tub at Wal-Fart or what ever. You will need enamel paint, it has oil and wont sink. If you didnt keep factory sealant seal the guitar with a wood sealler. Paint a base coat of white, this helps bring out the color of your swirl and also severs as your over all base. Fill your tub with water and add your paint, try to pour your colors with out first mixing them ( Dont put them ontop of each other). Then get a stick or the like and start weaving your swirl. Depending on how big your tub is you may have to thin the paint to keep it from being thick. Also, if you dont want to dubble coat the swirl paint submerg the guitar body before poring paint, so you will be pulling it out and not dipping and then pulling.

Right now I have my JS body set to primer and then swirl time. I will post updates after I am done.

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post #6 of 335 (permalink) Old 01-05-2003, 07:27 AM Thread Starter
 
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thanks HDS (and wheresthebeef of course), you've joined right on time
if you have a digital camera, could you do pictures of your JS getting swirl step by step (ouuuuuuh baaaaaaby.... (ok that was the lamest thing i've ever written on the net)) please ?
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post #7 of 335 (permalink) Old 01-05-2003, 09:33 AM
 
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The trick is the paint .
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Now that's shocker!

I think this is on the FAQ? The swirling process is a trade secret. The consensus is you will spend a lot of money and ruin a lot of finishes before you can get a half decent swirl.

Spend 4xx with ATD, and get it done great, the first try.
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post #8 of 335 (permalink) Old 01-05-2003, 11:34 AM
 
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Here's something from a jemster, tubaraodesigns.

http://www.myswirls.hpg.ig.com.br/index.htm


He also does swirls, but his services are only limited to Brazil and Latin America only.

http://www.tubaraodesigns.hpg.ig.com.br/
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The trick is the paint .
HDS
Now that's shocker!

I think this is on the FAQ? The swirling process is a trade secret. The consensus is you will spend a lot of money and ruin a lot of finishes before you can get a half decent swirl.

Spend 4xx with ATD, and get it done great, the first try.
I didn't read the FAQ, I never do.
I offered the info as a point of offering; I am doing it because I have 2 guitars and want to try something new called a hobby. Also, this isnít a trade secret, as stated before on this board. Artfoke have been doing it for many years and your mother may also know this trick because craft people do it to ornaments postcards etc... Heak I remember back in 1983 when I use to swirl eggs for Easter.

I did a test swirl on a small scale with model paint (enamel) in a mason jar, and dipped a small car. Guess what? It worked.

If you have the money (always the key to having someone elseís do it) go to the pros. If youíre feeling crafty do it yourself.
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I did a test swirl on a small scale with model paint (enamel) in a mason jar, and dipped a small car. Guess what? It worked.

do you think you can post pictures of the model car? I think a lot of us would be interested in checking it out.
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post #11 of 335 (permalink) Old 01-05-2003, 01:12 PM Thread Starter
 
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I started that thread just because I was interested in HOW it was technically done...
I don't think I'll ever swirl one of my guitar myself (or even get it done by someone else...)
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I've always known how to swirl, since I was really young, saw it done on TV on a piece of posterboard. All my art student friends know how too. But, it really is an artform, and very difficult to do it right to get a really nice result. Look at some of Darren (ATD)'s recent stuff, he's got it perfected. I haven't bothered trying yet, cuz I don't have the money to possibly waste a lot of paint, and a guitar body that I'll need to get refinished if I screw it up. Or the time for that matter. Why do it yourself when you can have ATD or someone do it for you? Same reason you prefer to write your own songs rather than have a professional writer write them for you. It's the thrill of creating something that is your own in every way. Will an ATD swirl look better? Probably if it's your first time trying it on your own. But, you'll appreciate a home made swirl a bit more I think.
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post #13 of 335 (permalink) Old 01-05-2003, 01:26 PM
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I think this is on the FAQ?
Indeed it is.
There are at least a dozen threads on this subject. Make that a Baker's Dozen.
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The swirling process is a trade secret. The consensus is you will spend a lot of money and ruin a lot of finishes before you can get a half decent swirl.

Spend 4xx with ATD, and get it done great, the first try.
Wise advice.
Darren's been doing it longer than many Forum members have been alive. There's a reason people go to him: he's the best. Not too many people have the balls to say, "I want to swirl that submarine on E-bay!", but he did....and he could have done it too. :-)

Save yourself the headaches, massive mess, excessive cash spent on materials, hassles from roomies/sig. other about the 'experiment' in the kitchen.
www.abouttimedesigns.com
Get in touch with Darren. His kitchen is already jacked. :-)
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post #14 of 335 (permalink) Old 01-05-2003, 01:33 PM
 
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But, you'll appreciate a home made swirl a bit more I think.
it's a lot more satisfaction seeing your own work even if it's not perfect. sure beats paying someone to do it and then showing off someone else's work. showing off one's own work is so much more fun than showing off one's deep pockets.
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I've been considering trying to do a swirl myself. Of course, I doubt it will come close to Herc's or Darren's. They have years under their belts doing this. But, I think it would be fun. Maybe, I can do a smale scale version of different color combos, then when I find the ideal combo, have it done professionally
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