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post #1 of 4 (permalink) Old 01-12-2010, 10:42 PM Thread Starter
 
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Tone - B string 12 fret - Mid or Treble?

Can anyone tell me what the B note, 12th fret b-string, is considered on the guitar, a mid tone or a treble tone? (I know, I know, there are overtones, harmonics, etc., but generally speaking.)

The reason I ask, is that JS gets a lot brighter note when hitting this than I do on my JS1200. (Love Thing) I know he's probably using a Mo' Joe now, which is listed by Dimarzio to have even less mid and treble than my stock Fred, so I'm guessing it's not the pickup. Plus I'm fairly certain his was brighter even when he used a Fred.

Do I just increase treble or mid on the amp. I've changed the amp settings a little, but can't seem to brighten up this note, and the range of notes around it.

Maybe it's just my wah, amp, speakers, or some other setting. I don't know, but it bugs the heck out of me because the rest of the guitar's tone is pretty damn close!

I don't know if this is the right forum, cuz there ain't one on Tone, so I'm hoping some other JS fan has some idea or experience.

-cp
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Re: Tone - B string 12 fret - Mid or Treble?

You're strings might be rusted or gunked up, are they relatively fresh? If they're old that's probably the reason you're tone isn't bright enough.

In the mean time, just crank the treble or presence. If it still isn't enough you might even have to turn down the bass/mids just to get more treble, if that's how it's going. You can't go wrong with fiddling with some settings that at first glance might seem unreasonable. At the very worst you'll just end up putting everything back to where they were.

PS. Everything on your EQ controls the frequencies of every note, not just specific note on the guitar.
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Re: Tone - B string 12 fret - Mid or Treble?

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You're strings might be rusted or gunked up, are they relatively fresh? If they're old that's probably the reason you're tone isn't bright enough.

In the mean time, just crank the treble or presence. If it still isn't enough you might even have to turn down the bass/mids just to get more treble, if that's how it's going. You can't go wrong with fiddling with some settings that at first glance might seem unreasonable. At the very worst you'll just end up putting everything back to where they were.

PS. Everything on your EQ controls the frequencies of every note, not just specific note on the guitar.
Your Eq is basically a baseband Filter. It allows you to combine Highpass and Low pass filters to get the desired output response given (in theory) a perfect response. So it's basically a selective amplifier.
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post #4 of 4 (permalink) Old 01-13-2010, 12:55 PM
 
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Re: Tone - B string 12 fret - Mid or Treble?

So many variables go into a guitarist's tone: age of your strings, amp, amp settings, guitar settings, touch, effects in use, effects settings (wah for the Love Thing tone and foot position), cables in use, etc. etc.
If you want your tone to be brighter, I find it better, to a point, to reduce lower EQ frequencies than boosting the higher ones and to use fewer effects in the chain with fewer cable connections.
Also, if you're referencing Love Thing, note that in addition to his recording there is probably some post EQ and mastering on there that will further fine tune the tone from what was actually played as well.
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