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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 06-04-2002, 02:01 PM Thread Starter
 
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Universe- Purchasing guidence..

Howdy all.

I'm recently getting back into playing guitar after a 10 year break, and
I've already scored a Root Beer Jem that I've always wanted, and a pair
of JS guitars, but I'm also considering a Universe.

I see Rich has some in the $600-700 dollar range, but I honestly don't
know much about the Universe guitars. I really don't need a collectable
one, I'd like to stay in the $600-700 range...I'm just looking for one
that plays really well, and sounds even better.

Is there a particular model that fits that bill? Are they all good? I'm
assuming Ibanez has some low end ones, just like the JS has the 100
series, I just want to make sure I'm not jumping into the wrong guitar
and have to sell it at a loss.

Any help is greatly apprecaited.

If you have something that fits my description, feel free to E-mail me
about it at [email protected] or just point me to your ad
here on the classifieds.

TLR

PS if you search the Jem Classifieds, you will see that I got kudos for
being quick to purchase a Root Beer Jem, and I have nothing but
good feedback on EBAY (under LonelyRavenEyes), and www.heatware.com
under Lonely Raven
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 06-04-2002, 02:09 PM
 
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get a used UV777BK, you'll be happy with it.
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I agree. You can't go wrong with a UV777BK.
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I'll disagree, the 777's just don't have the "growl" that the earlier models do. I notice this myself and have been told the same thing countless times. More than likely has to do with the change to the pickups.

There are no budget (Korean) UV's ala JS100, they're all Jpn made.
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I own a UV777BK and have always loved the way it played - it was my first and my only 7 string. As a player, you can't beat it. It looks nice too, although one day I'll replace the mirror pickguard.

I did, however, change all the electronics in it. The Blaze 2s did nothing for me. I put and Evo-7 in the bridge, a PAF-7 in the neck and a Tom Anderson 7 string single in the middle (the only one known to man, i think).

Plays AND sounds nicey nice now
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I've played a whole herd of Universes over the years and the UV777BKs are the most consistent and best sounding to my ears. Additionally the style of them make them a real stunning looking guitar.

The ones going for low dough on Richs site are the UV7BKs which are widely regarded as the "ugly ducking" of Universes. The silver-dot one is among the most hated according to the reviews on here.

Pay a little extra and get a whole lot more.
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The silver-dot's are looked down on because they don't have any Vai-isms, it's the most sedate of all UV's. No neon colors, no mirrors, etc. IMO the PWH is the most classic looking of all the UV's.
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As much as I hate to admit it, I am going to agree with Rich. The silver dot UVs are great guitars on their own. They do not have any of the flash of the earlier UVs, nor the elegance of the current UV.

The silver dot UV is what introduced the world to a good, solid, no-frills seven string that was not automatically associated with Vai, or anyone else. This led to the RG7620 and the other onslaught of 7 strings. I'd recommend a silver dot fully.

It's also the easiest to "pass" in a six string environment. I've taken mine to open mics and was able to play for up to 30 minutes before anyone noticed it was a UV. You can't do that with an MC or a green dot UV.

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As much as I hate to admit it, I am going to agree with Rich.
Uh oh, it'll probably snow now!
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mmmmmmm... I still recommend the UV777BK, however as to if you like the pickups or not, well that'll be all up to you. I didn't like them nuch at frist, but I really got some new and interresting sounds from them. They are very unique sounding when compared to my other guitars. However... don't like the pups, then change them! I still think a used uv777bk is the best for your money... but thats my opinion. Just read Glen's review of this UV on this site under the hits and misses I think... he says it all very well.
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I also like the silver dot UV7BK. It's just very metal-looking IMHO, and again doesn't have an immediate Vai association (but try shaking the Korn references. ) However, I discovered the UV because I was looking at 7-strings (when I was a fan of Korn (still am) and hadn't heard of Vai yet) and thought the UV777BK was amazing and blew the RG-7620 out of the water (and that's just looking at pics on Ibanez.com lol). Basically, sound, sight, feel, everything is up to you, everyone has a different opinion. Go nuts!
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Wow! Thanx guys, you really spilled it for me.

And yes, the Silver Dot's were the ones I was looking at. I didn't think
they looked lame at all. As I said, I just wanted to get into a 7.

Honestly, all the UV guitars I've played in stores were all terrible. They
had good tone, but obviously not setup correctly or something. I was
looking at $250 Schecter 7 strings over them! Honestly!

Now if I could get a Root Beer UV, now THAT would be my guitar! LOL

I think I'm going to do some shopping!
Thanx again for your time guys, this was very informitive.
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Besides cosmetics, are there any differences between the silver dots
and the UV777BK?

I really like the look of the UV777BK, but it's over my current budget.
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same build quality, but the UV777BK is tehe *only* UV with the all-access neck... glen
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post #15 of 15 (permalink) Old 06-05-2002, 10:41 AM
 
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I was
looking at $250 Schecter 7 strings over them! Honestly!
I bounce between a UV777BK and a Schecter C7+. The UV plays and sounds like an Ibanez. The Schecter I liken more to a Les Paul due to the set neck and mahogany body.

They're different tools for different jobs. For my punk-styled band the Schecter just has a larger sound whcih works with the Rickenbacker the other guitar player uses. For my metal-esque band the Ibanez is perfect for having a little more high-end to it and cutting through for leads.

Both are exceptionally well-made instruments but are very much my Dr. Jekyll to Mr. Hyde sonically.
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