ok six string sorcerer, i want to take a break and reply to this. i simply encourage you to consider this reply in in itself before taking in any/all the reactions it may receive from other members.
one thing i've seen happen around here is spec craze. this is healthy in so much as it doesn't overshadow a very important end result - music for you. i am a metaphysicist who composes and happens to use the guitar for implementing music. i do not listen to steve vai's music. i listen to frank zappa, but varese and bartok more. i don't listen to steve vai's indian influence, i listen to http://air.kode.net/music/index.html
some may need some sort of respectful comment here like "though steve vai has x,y, etc brilliant qualities" - but i'm not going to do that. it is much less relevant than a paraphrase of something vai said about the 7 . he basically said he wanted a machine that he would have to work up to. do you want your first 7 string to be the model challenging steve vai? do you have an eventide guitar processor?
no matter what others say, i would like to add for you that the uv is a difficult instrument. some will say, "that is relative" etc. so let me mention it again, the uv is a difficult instrument. the uv is more difficult than the 2027.
also, prepare to wear a toolbelt for the tech aspects are both art and science and no matter what you get from the net it can't be enough. unless you buy from ibanez rules and specify how you want it setup.
the uv777pbk has a rosewood body - very porous and fuzzy. the neck is huge - i don't know the specs, i know i have both the uv and 2027 and the uv's neck is huge in comparision thru playing. the uv is effects hungry, the more you add, the more it lives. this was a deciding factor in my getting a uv, i wanted to generate very clean relatively transparent tones, kind of like in much recording (e.g. phillip glass' new stuff where he recorded players' parts individually and then honed them in pro tools). lots of freedom But shifts responsibility over to (pricey) processing.
i suppose you know about the tremelo systems on these models. are you a bender? if so be prepared to work to come up thru the ranks to bend (fluidly) as you can on a strat with these. the incentive being the result is actually much more powerful. i've spent more time on bending fluidity with the uv than anything else. bends are easier on the 2027 but can be less shredding though warm/chunky. i imagine bends are easier on the hard tail 2027 (i think they have those).
what is your picking style? if your hand rests on the tremolo while picking you're in luck. if not, count on extra work. do you play alot of pockets are you an extreme register switcher? i don't mean fluid arpeggio work, i mean extreme discontinuous switches because witht the uv making point contact, finger to note in the latter case can lead to push pull about the fretwire which oscillates the tremelo. just enough to where picking away from the hand resting on tremelo position likely takes more work. so expect your left hand to literally feel and look different while playing a uv. some just say 'it's a slower guitar'. the strings on the 2027 'Feel' and 'Seem' closer to each other - making pt pt contact easier.
if you do alot of legato work plan on effects. many use delays - do you want delay? if you listen to vai's demo of the carvin legacy, what's the first thing he does? taps into just a little delay. so this might not eek him 6, 7, or whatever, will it you?
for me the fretwire seems more scotch tapeish, much more so than the 2027.
the uv's fretwire 'feels' higher than the 2027, much higher. i believe the 2027 has a more planar neck long term than the uv. also, the binding on the uv does Not mean plays like a les paul neck. *the payoff with the uv being that when you nail it you NAIL it and i think this is an important impact difference. so shredding with the uv is literally shredding. but for a 7 newbie, you may be woodchucking thru concrete.
imo (of course) to do this with the 2027 this is one of the uses of the piezos, a sort of stickiness.
the 2027 has a Mahogany body. this is so important.
no the 2027 doesn't have pretty pyramids but the one little inlay it does have is does so much. in fact if you really look at the uv it almost looks like a toy (not saying it is a toy by any means) - this is not true with the 2027. for a beginning 7 string user, the uv could very well be a real disaster for you. somewhat like you at the playboy mansion without having even so much dressed for the occasion nor having any money.
i believe the uv has the superior feel for tremelo bar work.
for some there are real nice step by step packages on how to go about things. i don't think these dinky little packages do well out on the fringe. if you want a guitar that looks really fascinating (from a distance) parked in the driveway these little diet plans are great. then someone says 'just play them for yourself and decide' and are of course no different. so it's important to just immerse to the point of 'i can't be thoughtful about this' where time is just a word you have forgotten. if you make mistakes so what - what kind of music do people in the 'culture of complaint' make anyway?
finally, and i'm doing this from just playing the freaks not the data sheets, do you have it in what your after to maintain a 7 string, 24 fret machine? 'the extra 2-3 frets don't make a difference' and/ or 'the extra string doesn't change much' to me is not true. they make a big difference. i don't think piezos in the uv are a good idea at all. the uv fretwire has scotchy fretwire, a really nice cling overall per my feeling. the piezos in there are going to spank too hard and she'll not like this. and of course this whole notion of local shops (unless authorized dealer) doing this type of thing with the uv is ... insane.
i seriously would be frightened to by an ib from anywhere but ibanezrules.
(Edited by 1 1 Dragon 2 2 2 at 5:13 pm on Sep. 1, 2001)
(Edited by 1 1 Dragon 2 2 2 at 5:20 pm on Sep. 1, 2001)