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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 04-22-2008, 08:05 AM Thread Starter
 
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Question Vine Boards Quartersawn ? - Durability issue

I gather all JEM Vine and Pyramid Fretboards are quarter-sawn.

Got some totally Flatsawn ones from a seller (MonsterGuitarShop) and the fibres at top frets looks too flimsy, making durability questionable.







Does anyone know if this Flatsawn surface Will affect durability?
The strings would just shave off the wood, probably.
I expect that Quartersawn would have a more 'rigid' surface here.

The second Rosewood board in the top image is from another seller. More details here:
http://www.jemsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70490
Quartersawn though.

The Pyramid Maple Board has some faults with the routing at 24ft:


Anyone knows more on flatsawn V/S Quartersawn regarding surface durability?

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Re: Vine Boards Quartersawn ? - Durability issue

In general, I wouldn't have any problem using flatsawn wood for a fingerboard. It really comes down to the individual piece of wood. Rosewood is usually pretty durable. I suggest you first sand it down to a nice smooth surface and then re-evaluate it. The strings shouldn't wear directly on the wood that much, especially at those high frets. Then again, you could have a particularly troublesome piece. Can you pick fibers up with a fingernail? Without seeing it, my guess is that it would be fine. But if you have doubts then get a different board.
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Question Re: Vine Boards Quartersawn ? - Durability issue

There are some -2- unnecessary extensions of the routing on the 24th fret.

Does a real JEM PYRAMID neck have those?



Does anyone have a High Res. Picture of the 24th fret to clarify this?

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Re: Vine Boards Quartersawn ? - Durability issue

http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/2471/dsc08025wj6.jpg

Looks kinda like yours, maybe not exact, but very close.
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Re: Vine Boards Quartersawn ? - Durability issue

BTW i think those boards should do fine.
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Question Re: Vine Boards Quartersawn ? - Durability issue

Is that a JEM original?
Looking to verify what the -old- 777 DY, LNG or SK Pyramid inlay looks like there, or even the UV.
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Re: Vine Boards Quartersawn ? - Durability issue

If you want to make it look better, cut back the top edge of that inlay route so it meets the over-routed corners (or at least is closer). You could make it pretty well disappear. (That assumes the inlay itself is either already oversized or you can make a bigger one.) Otherwise you could fill the corners with a lacquer fill stick. It won't match perfectly, but it won't be too noticeable.
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Re: Vine Boards Quartersawn ? - Durability issue

Almost every Fender Maple neck is flatsawn, so I wouldn't get overly hung up about Flatsawn Vs Quartersawn - in fact Musikraft state that Quartersawn Maple can actually be too stiff, rendering the truss rod non-functional with lighter gauge strings.
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Re: Vine Boards Quartersawn ? - Durability issue

Here's a pyramid inlay...

you an see it does have the over routed corners although perhaps not as pronounced as the one you have.
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Re: Vine Boards Quartersawn ? - Durability issue

What did you use to hide the over routed corners and the gaps?
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Re: Vine Boards Quartersawn ? - Durability issue

Sorry, are you asking me? The neck is from a swirled JEM777SK so it's the original Ibanez neck, so, I don't know how it was filled, but it's about the same colour as the lacquer if that helps!
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Re: Vine Boards Quartersawn ? - Durability issue

Oh so it is just filled with a clear poly or something? It almost looked like they used an epoxy that was close to the color of the inlay. But it could be just the lighting and the angle the pic was taken.

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Re: Vine Boards Quartersawn ? - Durability issue

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Originally Posted by David McCarroll View Post
... Musikraft state that Quartersawn Maple can actually be too stiff, rendering the truss rod non-functional with lighter gauge strings.
I have not seen any Factory JEM or UV Maple Fretboard with anything but Quartersawn fibres.
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