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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-30-2003, 01:33 AM Thread Starter
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weird string problem

hello, i tried a forum search but couldn't find what i am looking for. The g string on my jem is very buzzy, but the guitar is properly set up, and has medium-high action. i keep on changing the string thinking that it is a bad string or somethin but it is not. the whole guitar is in perfect tune, and the nut is locked down tight, and the string. Im pretty sure it is not the pickups either, cause the rest of the strings play clearly. any ideas?
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Sounds like it's saddle buzz, swap the g with the high e and see if it goes away.
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I swapped them and it made it worse. should i try different combinations like swap the g for the b, or should i buy new saddles?
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Yea, swap them around until you find a combo that works, just don't put the loose ones on the heavy wounds.
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i tried as many g,b,e saddle combinations as possible and it is the same annoying buzz. after i hit a string i hear "ts ts ts ts", and then it stops and the string rings clean. i also inspected all the saddles and they seem fine.
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Are you stringing with the ball at the nut?

Your nut pads are tight?
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post #7 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-30-2003, 04:55 PM
 
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Happened to me some time ago.

Check the locking nut.
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Are you stringing with the ball at the nut?

Your nut pads are tight?
yep, and everything is tight. the sound is definitely coming from the trem side of the guitar. i forgot to mention that when i hit the g string, it seems to vibrate the whole body of the guitar way more than any others. you can really feel it in the body of the guitar when you hit the g string
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Are you stringing with the ball at the nut?

Your nut pads are tight?
yep, and everything is tight. the sound is definitely coming from the trem side of the guitar. i forgot to mention that when i hit the g string, it seems to vibrate the whole body of the guitar way more than any others. you can really feel it in the body of the guitar when you hit the g string
Some blocks of wood will vibrate sympathetically with different frequencies, that's nothing to worry about. My RG520 likes D quite a bit, and my RG550 likes B, wood is a funny thing. :-)

When you strike a string and can here the buzzing, put your finger on each saddle and see if it stops, if it doesn't stop when you put your finger on the saddles, try pressing on the saddle screws(for the lock-blocks). Still can't stop the sound? Remove the back cover and see if the ground wire is vibrating on the springs . . . not it?

Keep going, when you can hear the rattle press on anything and everything you can think of that could have come loose, even the output jack. Check the stud-locks, see if one is loose, check the screws that hold the block to the trem plate, if one is loose it will rattle, while the other two will hold tight enough that there will be no problem with tuning . . . so on . . . so on . . .

Since your guitar vibrates quite a bit in sympathy to the G string it could be anywhere on the body, even a loose pot. These things can be a little hard to track down, but if you're persistent you can eventually find it.

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damn, i wish there were a simple quick answer, but it seems that there never is. o well, thanks for all the input anyways. ill get to work
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post #11 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-31-2003, 01:32 AM Thread Starter
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i looked to buy new saddles cause they are pretty cheap anyway, and am not sure about this: are the high saddles for the treble side, middle saddles for d and g string, and low saddles for low e and a strings?
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The saddles are all the same, on the Edge trem the plate is curved, unlike the OFR where the plate is flat and the saddles are different sizes.

Are you SURE it's a saddle(s) causing the noise? Rattles at that end of the guitar can be any number of things, as I said in my prev. post.

Is the arm holder tight? That's one I forgot to mention before . . . often a cause of rattling.

I went nuts trying to find a rattle in a friends Strat, everything looked and felt tight but it was still there. After much head scratching I discovered it was the pickguard. The part near the lower cut-away was warped and buzzing on the body. I stuck, of all things, a cd cleaning cloth in the void under the guard and the buzz went away.

You would be amazed at the strange things you'll run into. :-)

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