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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 05-17-2011, 08:04 PM Thread Starter
 
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Unhappy 1994 Ibanez RG450DX with crack in body

Hi guys,
Does anyone know if it is common for older RG's to form cracks in the body behind the trem. post?
I have had this happen to my RG450DX. I replaced the body with an identical one, only to have it happen again on the opposing side, and worse this time.

Is this something I should be worried about?

The first pic shows, if you look carefully, that the bridge is crooked, leaning more up on the right side.
The second pic is similar, but you can see better that the post is actually leaning as well.
And the third pic, is a picture of the first body I replaced.
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Re: 1994 Ibanez RG450DX with crack in body

I've seen this once before. the crack is actually the result of another problem. The trem anchors (the part the stud screws into) have softened the wood around them enough to actually crack the header in front of them. It IS repairable.... you should not need another body this time......
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Re: 1994 Ibanez RG450DX with crack in body

Thanks for your reply..
Any idea on the cost to repair, and if I could possibly do it myself easily?
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Re: 1994 Ibanez RG450DX with crack in body

There are a few things you'll want to consider to keep this from happening again.... both will be a MASSIVE upgrade to your guitar..... The first thing to do is find a nice condition edge-pro bridge..... you can find them as cheap as $50 on the used market, The second thing to do is call Rich @ www.Ibanezrules.com for a set of new "super studs" and anchors.... I think he sells them for around $50 a set, but you'll have to talk to him to make sure. The rest of the process is all about you taking some time to repair the crack and installing the new inserts. It's an easy job that will take you about an hour+ plus drying time for the glue........

If you want to know more you can PM me....

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Re: 1994 Ibanez RG450DX with crack in body

I forgot to mention that this problem is cause by the non-locking studs on your TRS 2 bridge (that and the poor general design of the bridge itself)....If you were to keep this bridge, you can probably count on the problem returning...

You can absolutely do this yourself....... If you can work a drill,hand saw, and some glue... you'll be more than qualified!!!....lol
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Re: 1994 Ibanez RG450DX with crack in body

Well I am not too sure about messing with upgrading my bridge. I understand that the LO-TRS II is not too great, but at the same time I really never use the wammy bar at all.

And if I were to go to that extent, I have read I could just do a direct swap OFR.
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Re: 1994 Ibanez RG450DX with crack in body

I mean, I never use the tremolo at all, I set it up to the proper floating specs, tune it up, lock the neck studs and play a bunch of power chords lol.
Would you still claim if I never used the tremolo system, that it would crack again?
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Re: 1994 Ibanez RG450DX with crack in body

yup, the problem happens because the studs wiggle slightly every time you hit a string. In fact I'd guess that not using the trem might actually add to the stress, but I don't know that for sure.
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Re: 1994 Ibanez RG450DX with crack in body

just for thoughts.... how many springs are on the bottom of your trem??
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Re: 1994 Ibanez RG450DX with crack in body

Hmmm.
So what would you say to swapping with a OFR, including all the hardware, such as new studs..?

...If I had the money, I would just grab a 550 and laugh it off lol.
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Re: 1994 Ibanez RG450DX with crack in body

And there is 3, 2 on the far sides and one in the middle, the spring "clip" is angled to compensate for a thicker gauge on top (Ernie ball skinny top heavy bottoms)
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Hmmm.
So what would you say to swapping with a OFR, including all the hardware, such as new studs..?

...If I had the money, I would just grab a 550 and laugh it off lol.

unfortunately OFR's don't come with locking studs, plus buying a new one would cost you more than finding a nice Edge-Pro and the studs/inserts. The Edge-Pro is one of Ibanez's best trems...especially with the locking stud upgrade.

The OFR is a better option than using your original TRS though. The OFR does come with larger and more stable studs and inserts. plus the OFR itself is VASTLY superior to the TRS in terms of tuning stability and longevity (I suspect that your TRS is worn out by now).

Either trem that you pick will require the same amount of work to install, so the choice is yours (of course.....it's your guitar....lol)

No matter what you decide, there's a bunch of us that will help you get you guitar repaired and your trem installed properly.

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And there is 3, 2 on the far sides and one in the middle, the spring "clip" is angled to compensate for a thicker gauge on top (Ernie ball skinny top heavy bottoms)

You don't want to angle the spring "claw"... it puts uneven tension on the studs. THIS is probably the reason for the crack...... You really need to have the claw set as evenly as possible....... when it's set even, the springs can spread the tension evenly to the studs. It works a lot like a rubber band, when short it's really easy to stretch but when it's already stretched out....it's a lot harder to make it stretch further.... hope that makes sense.
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I have to sign off for the night....... If you have any other Q's or thoughts, feel free to PM me but also post them here.... there's a lot of guys that will jump in to help you out too....
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unfortunately OFR's don't come with locking studs, plus buying a new one would cost you more than finding a nice Edge-Pro and the studs/inserts. The Edge-Pro is one of Ibanez's best trems...especially with the locking stud upgrade.

The OFR is a better option than using your original TRS though. The OFR does come with larger and more stable studs and inserts. plus the OFR itself is VASTLY superior to the TRS in terms of tuning stability and longevity (I suspect that your TRS is worn out by now).

Either trem that you pick will require the same amount of work to install, so the choice is yours (of course.....it's your guitar....lol)

No matter what you decide, there's a bunch of us that will help you get you guitar repaired and your trem installed properly.

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Ok cool, I will save some money in due time to upgrade to the EDGE-PRO, and discuss the upgrade with the good people here when that time comes.
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