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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-05-2013, 10:27 AM Thread Starter
 
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25.5" or 27" scale for me?

So i used the tension chart to work this out. I basically just tuned my guitar UP from standard half a step to see what the tension on a 27" would feel like and i LOVE it. Suits me perfectly.

Considering getting a new guitar and im thinking a 27" would be nice. But having never had a chance to play one i wanted to ask about fret spacing. Thats my main issue, i play a lot of old thrash metal and like to play rock and stuff too.

How noticeable is the fret spacing going to be? Thanks in advance!
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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-05-2013, 10:39 AM
 
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Re: 25.5" or 27" scale for me?

As far as I'm concerned, 27" scale is the only scale that makes sense.
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post #3 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-05-2013, 10:52 AM
 
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Re: 25.5" or 27" scale for me?

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So i used the tension chart to work this out. I basically just tuned my guitar UP from standard half a step to see what the tension on a 27" would feel like and i LOVE it. Suits me perfectly.

Considering getting a new guitar and im thinking a 27" would be nice. But having never had a chance to play one i wanted to ask about fret spacing. Thats my main issue, i play a lot of old thrash metal and like to play rock and stuff too.

How noticeable is the fret spacing going to be? Thanks in advance!
The tension isn't an issue - you can go up or down a gauge of strings to adjust if need be.

The fret spacing on the other hand will feel different. Do you do a lot of wide stretches? You'll definitely feel it in your hand if you do a lot of fast, shreddy legato stuff, particularly in the lower registers of the neck. I actually like longer scales up at the top of the fretboard as it's a little more spacious, but in the lower registers I can deal with it but it's not as comfortable.

Another factor - tone will be quite a bit different. Longer scales give you a crisper, sharper attack all else equal. This is very desirable for low-tuned riffing in the lower registers of the guitar, but is a bit of a tradeoff on the unwound strings. Single-note lines will tend to be a little sharper and brighter, and less round and singing. Think of the difference between a Les Paul and a Strat, even unplugged, soloing on the treble strings, and then think that what you're hearing there is 3/4" of difference, and you're looking at about twice that on a 27" seven string.

If you want to do heavy riffing and JUST heavy riffing, and none of the stretches in any of your riffs are even remotely uncomfortable for you, then there's absolutely no tradeoff here and 27" is probably the way to go. However, as you move from predominantly rhythm to predominantly lead, it begins to become a bit more of a potential sacrifice, and you'll probably want to spend some playtime on one before you commit.
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post #4 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-07-2013, 11:45 AM
 
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Re: 25.5" or 27" scale for me?

This is what the two scales look like side by side , obviously the 555 neck is 25 1/2
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post #5 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-07-2013, 06:19 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: 25.5" or 27" scale for me?

Great to see an actual picture! Bravo sir. Thanks for the help fellas!
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post #6 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-08-2013, 12:09 AM
 
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Re: 25.5" or 27" scale for me?

This was my first time spending any real length of time playing a 27" scale guitar, if you watch the first minute you can see it really didn't affect the way I play at all, felt really comfortable etc. I've even ordered one for myself!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B0Enq0ac4o
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post #7 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-08-2013, 12:24 AM
 
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Re: 25.5" or 27" scale for me?

Think of it this way.

Your 24 fret 25.5" scale neck has the same fret spacing as a 27" scale if the first fret was the 3rd fret on the 27" scale.

ie. Add two more bigger frets below the nut, and you have the 27" scale...essentially.
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post #8 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-08-2013, 12:56 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: 25.5" or 27" scale for me?

I see! Amazing playing in that video by the way! I am wantimg a brand new guitar rather than second hand (im very anal about my guitars!) What is on offer in 27"? I know ibanez rgd are 26.5 as are a few jacksoms. I really cannot get into shecter, and i hear the necks on the agile guitars is rather fat!
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post #9 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-08-2013, 10:22 AM
 
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Re: 25.5" or 27" scale for me?

Though, note that the nuts aren't aligned in the picture...
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post #10 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-11-2013, 10:23 AM
 
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Re: 25.5" or 27" scale for me?

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Think of it this way.

Your 24 fret 25.5" scale neck has the same fret spacing as a 27" scale if the first fret was the 3rd fret on the 27" scale.

ie. Add two more bigger frets below the nut, and you have the 27" scale...essentially.
Actually the difference is equivalent to one fret only, as 27 = 25.5 * 1.06, and 1.06 is the twelveth root of 2.

So playing a chord at the fifth fret on a 25.5" scale is exactly the same as playing it on the 6th fret on a 27" scale, in terms of fingerstretch
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post #11 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-11-2013, 03:58 PM
 
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Re: 25.5" or 27" scale for me?

^ I stand corrected!
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post #12 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-15-2013, 09:27 AM
 
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Re: 25.5" or 27" scale for me?

You were probably thinking of a 28 5/8 " baritone neck.
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post #13 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-16-2013, 03:22 AM
 
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Re: 25.5" or 27" scale for me?

Fret spacing is actually really comfortable at the 12th fret or so. Its the 1st position that will probably stretch your hand a bit. The benefit is your hand gets stronger making smaller guitars much easier to play!
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post #14 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-26-2013, 08:21 PM
 
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Re: 25.5" or 27" scale for me?

I have a baritone guitar that has a 28 inch scale and it's fairly difficult to play. It takes some getting used to with the wider frets. I like 25.5 better but it could just be because I have smallish fingers.
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