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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-22-2006, 06:06 AM Thread Starter
 
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2550e neck vs jem 7vwh neck (2005 models)

Hi all,

last night I read a lot of posts about the differences between the necks on the 2005/2006 models of these guitars. Some people say the necks are identical on the 2005 models but different on earlier models and other people say the jem is a bit wider and fatter, ibanez site says the jem is wider and fatter ??

So, to ask the same old question again:

Does the new (05/06) rg 2550e have the same neck as the jem7vwh or not ? Obviously the frets are different, I already know that one )

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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-22-2006, 06:54 AM
 
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Re: 2550e neck vs jem 7vwh neck (2005 models)

http://www.jemsite.com/jem/necks.htm

2550e has a wizard neck, the 7vwh has a jem neck.

Hope that helps.
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post #3 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-22-2006, 11:20 AM
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Re: 2550e neck vs jem 7vwh neck (2005 models)

The JEM neck is a little fatter, but not wider.
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Re: 2550e neck vs jem 7vwh neck (2005 models)

Its not so much the thickness, its more the shape thats different. The Jem neck is marginally thicker I believe too.
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post #5 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-22-2006, 11:32 AM
 
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Re: 2550e neck vs jem 7vwh neck (2005 models)

As of 2005, all the super wizard necks are 2mm wider at the 24 fret.
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post #6 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-25-2006, 07:40 AM
 
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Re: 2550e neck vs jem 7vwh neck (2005 models)

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As of 2005, all the super wizard necks are 2mm wider at the 24 fret.

Where did you get that info from?
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post #7 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-28-2006, 10:35 PM
 
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Re: 2550e neck vs jem 7vwh neck (2005 models)

It is according to the measurements in the catalog. I noticed it since 2005. Went to take a look for myself, and they do seem wider. (same string spacing, just wider fretboard hence the strings won't fall off the edge as easily)
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post #8 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-29-2006, 04:04 AM
 
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Re: 2550e neck vs jem 7vwh neck (2005 models)

2550 neck is thinner , also flater where the jem is more round, a big differance in feel . heres a pic done pretty much straight on hope this answers your question (blue ones the jem ,greeny ones the 2550).



i know its hard to get a direct straight shot but this should help

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post #9 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-29-2006, 04:36 AM
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Re: 2550e neck vs jem 7vwh neck (2005 models)

However that's not a 2005 jem - 2005 jem has the same neck RG2550 has.

They used to be different, now they are the same.

ilia
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post #10 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-29-2006, 04:59 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: 2550e neck vs jem 7vwh neck (2005 models)

Thanks for those photos, they show what I consider to be a massive difference between the 2 necks, but according to the last post this has all changed in 2005.

So can someone tell me with regards to those pictures do both necks now look like the one on the right or the one on the left ??

And a question for bezial, the frets on the rg2550 are referrred to as "jumbos", unfortunately this is not a good reference as there are many kinds of "jumbos" with some actually "super jumbos" and others "gibson jumbos" with a big difference between the 2 styles of wire. Would you say they are more like gibson jumbos ?

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post #11 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-29-2006, 05:59 PM
 
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Re: 2550e neck vs jem 7vwh neck (2005 models)

He's saying that the JEM necks now look like the necks of the guitar on the left which is the 2550. I know that the JEM I played definitely had a thinner neck than the one in that picture but it still felt slightly different than the other Prestige RGs that I've played (it was definitely a 2005 model JEM) so I don't know if there is a difference in measurements or whether it's simply a difference in quality. Regardless, the JEM is like the most comfortable electric guitar I've ever played and the freakin' things virtually play themselves.
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Re: 2550e neck vs jem 7vwh neck (2005 models)

cant help as the only gibson i have has smallish frets .
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Re: 2550e neck vs jem 7vwh neck (2005 models)

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However that's not a 2005 jem - 2005 jem has the same neck RG2550 has.

They used to be different, now they are the same.

ilia
you sure its not the rg now has the same neck as the jem just with the jem bieng the flagship and signiture model i wouldnt think they would change the neck on it is all? sorry if that sounds picky , not meant to be
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post #14 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-30-2006, 04:30 AM
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Re: 2550e neck vs jem 7vwh neck (2005 models)

I don't own any RG guitars so I couldn't tell you exactly what's happened but as I understand it the spec for all
Prestige bolt on RGs chaged to

Width at nut - same as before at 43mm
Width at last fret - changed from 56mm to 58mm
Thickness at 1st fret - changed from 17mm to 18mm
Thickness at 12th fret - same as before at 20mm

necks are 5 piece (although the walnut strips are so thin - it's really a 3 peice neck) and the neck has a volute


Jem 7V and 7B chaged to

Width at nut - same as before at 43mm
Width at last fret - changed from 57mm to 58mm
Thickness at 1st fret - changed from 19mm to 18mm
Thickness at 12th fret - changed from 21 to 20mm

necks are 5 piece (although the walnut strips are so thin - it's really a 3 peice neck) and the necks has a volute


On paper the dimensions are identical and trying in store will never give you a good comparison as new guitars are not "broken in" and always feel stiffer and harder to play.

To me it looks like the only difference between a 7B and RG2550 neck is the little "jem" inscription on one of them

ilia

edit: - can't spell

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post #15 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-03-2006, 12:28 AM
 
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Re: 2550e neck vs jem 7vwh neck (2005 models)

Straight off of Ibanez's site (Japan)

1570

Scale 648mm/ 25.5"
a : Width at Nut 43mm
b : Width at Last Fret 58mm
c: Thickness at 1st 18mm
d : Thickness at 12th 20mm
Radius 430mmR


2550

Scale 648mm/ 25.5"
a : Width at Nut 43mm
b : Width at Last Fret 58mm
c: Thickness at 1st 18mm
d : Thickness at 12th 20mm
Radius 430mmR



JEM

Scale 648mm/ 25.5"
a : Width at Nut 43mm
b : Width at Last Fret 58mm
c: Thickness at 1st 18mm
d : Thickness at 12th 20mm
Radius 430mmR


I do know this...I own a 2001 RG550 that has a much thinner and flatter neck.

When I picked up a JEM and then an RG2570...the necks felt so close I could not tell the difference. I know there are some differences...like the scallped part...but basically...they both played very closely to each other.

There is no way that I would ever pay 3 times the difference for the JEM while the 2550 was around! I had to order the 2550 but the wait was well worth it.

I also played an RG1570 that played nice...although there were a few dead spots on the neck...but it felt thicker than my 550...now I know why...

I had to laugh when the owner of the shop told me that they could easily fix the dead spot once I pointed it out to them...I was pretty sure it needed a fret job...and all they would do was raise the bridge height and reset the intonation...lame!
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