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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 04-27-2004, 09:03 PM Thread Starter
 
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7 string P90's?????

Does anyone make a 7 string version of a P90?
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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 04-27-2004, 09:15 PM
 
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not that i know of. and it might be tough to talk a big company into it as a custom build since it would require different parts.

i've seen a webpage for a custom pickup winder who did things like a 7 string humbucker with individual outputs for each string -- wierd one-off stuff like that. you might Google and see if you can find him.
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post #3 of 12 (permalink) Old 04-28-2004, 05:27 PM
 
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I searched for one as well. I asked Rio Grande if they could make a 7 string fat bastard (p-90 in a humbucking size) and they couldn't. Let us know if you find anything
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It shouldn't be that hard to cut two bobbins and join them in a wider width. It's been my understanding that a short fat coil produces a grittier, more raunchy sound with poorer string to string separation. While a taller coil is cleaner and clearer. I could be wrong, but my guess is that it would be harder to wind a P-90 style coil to give good clarity across the whole range vs. a taller, narrower coil. If you made it like a vintage strat or jazzmaster pickup with top and bottom fiber plates and then just wind around the insulated poles, it should be fairly routine. I'm sure one of the "boutique" smaller pickup winders would be able to make you one. It would look cool anyway.
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I found one. Jason Lollar will build them on a custom basis. Thay have no cover, so he overlays a piece of some sort of plastic/celluloid to give them a more finished look. They're expensive ($150-$160 each), but I've heard nothing but great things about his pickups and especially his P90's.
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Jason Lollar will build them on a custom basis.
that's the dude i was trying to remember! report back when you get the pickup -- it'd be cool to have a pair of those that would fit in the humbucker slots of a mahogany ibanez....
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What makes you interested in P-90's, Jim? I thought you were really satisfied with the sound of the PAF7's? (Granted, I realize that changing one's mind is both a woman's AND a guitarist's perogative )

Or is it that you're just looking for a different sound to go with the PAF7's?

Just curious.
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What makes you interested in P-90's, Jim? I thought you were really satisfied with the sound of the PAF7's? (Granted, I realize that changing one's mind is both a woman's AND a guitarist's perogative )

Or is it that you're just looking for a different sound to go with the PAF7's?

Just curious.
They're not for me. A potential customer has requested P90's with a Graph Tech piezo, and a spruce top and mahogany back. I think that would be a nice combo and if he comes up with the money, it's a guitar I'd like to build.
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What makes you interested in P-90's, Jim? I thought you were really satisfied with the sound of the PAF7's? (Granted, I realize that changing one's mind is both a woman's AND a guitarist's perogative )

Or is it that you're just looking for a different sound to go with the PAF7's?

Just curious.
They're not for me. A potential customer has requested P90's with a Graph Tech piezo, and a spruce top and mahogany back. I think that would be a nice combo and if he comes up with the money, it's a guitar I'd like to build.
Ah, thanks Jim. Sounds like a VERY cool guitar. P-90's can be nice... they always had a certain "rawness" to them I thought, that can sound very interesting.

As an aside, you've got the piezo option working/back on for your Soloway guitars?
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What makes you interested in P-90's, Jim? I thought you were really satisfied with the sound of the PAF7's? (Granted, I realize that changing one's mind is both a woman's AND a guitarist's perogative )

Or is it that you're just looking for a different sound to go with the PAF7's?

Just curious.
They're not for me. A potential customer has requested P90's with a Graph Tech piezo, and a spruce top and mahogany back. I think that would be a nice combo and if he comes up with the money, it's a guitar I'd like to build.
Ah, thanks Jim. Sounds like a VERY cool guitar. P-90's can be nice... they always had a certain "rawness" to them I thought, that can sound very interesting.

As an aside, you've got the piezo option working/back on for your Soloway guitars?
I have it working, but not on my personal guitars. I tend to be pretty much a one tone player and I'm really happy with the tone I'm getting without them, but all of our guitars are built piezo ready with a channel in the body under the bridge and holes milled into the bridge plate to run the wires through. The most important part of working with the Ghost system is just to shield the hell out of it because it's very sensative to poor electrical conditions.
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Very cool. I'm glad to see peizo as an option on your guitars, Jim. It just makes a great guitar even better in my opinion.

As an aside, I have an Ibanez RG2027. This guitar has a piezo bridge. It can be run stereo (mags one output, piezo the other) or mono (both summed to mono, piezo volume works as pan control between the two). You can get a neat psuedo-archtop sound by mixing a bit of the piezo signal in with the magnetics (usually with tone rolled off somewhat). Piezo definitely is a cool option.
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Very cool. I'm glad to see peizo as an option on your guitars, Jim. It just makes a great guitar even better in my opinion.

As an aside, I have an Ibanez RG2027. This guitar has a piezo bridge. It can be run stereo (mags one output, piezo the other) or mono (both summed to mono, piezo volume works as pan control between the two). You can get a neat psuedo-archtop sound by mixing a bit of the piezo signal in with the magnetics (usually with tone rolled off somewhat). Piezo definitely is a cool option.
That is exactly the setup that I can get with the Graph Tech system and exactly the tone that this particular custom wants.
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