Originally Posted by christianc
One last thing, with the advent of Meshuggah's latest album release, I've tried to play to the record and noticed that the lowest note is F#. I'm also trying to tune my guitar to match theirs. I've done this with my Cazares' model but it's highly unstable. I can only do this with my BC Rich Assassin 7 because it has a fixed bridge.
To achive that tuning, in addition to having a really heavey set of strings you also need to pull the intonation way
back. For some reason the longer the string the tighter and more responsive it is. I don't think the Ibanez Lo-Pro 7, or any 7-string bridge for that matter, can go back far enough to enable the proper tension to handle a low F#. An actuall 8 srting bridge is a little longer to compensate for more intonation "freedom". Almost like having a barritone guitar with a 25.5 inch scale. For example, My Cazeras 7 string is set up for the "Korn" tuning, a whole step down to A, and the intonation is pulled almost as far back as it can go. F# is just to friggin low for a 7 string. If you play any chords past the 4th of 5th fret the intonation is going to be really out of whack and sound horrible. There just comes a time on a guitar where you just can't go any lower and to solve it just add an extra string. I'm pretty sure that's the reason the guys in Meshuggah decided to go with the 8-strings and because they actually play past the 4th fret and wanted to keep the high E.
Then there is always the argument with players that say I don't need a 7-string,(or 8-string in this case) I can just tune mine down to whatever I need. But that's another story. It sounds like poop.
I was going to have a company called Abyss build me an 8 string to match up to my bass players 9-string bass because I couldn't get my 7 to go that low. Plus I wanted to retain the high E string. Most of the time I spent talking to the Abyss guys was spent figuring out the bridge. But before it really got started I had a "personal" crisis and had to delay the project for a while unfortunately. In the end I'll probably just end up with a fanned fret Conklin 8-string.
Just my $.02
Oh yeah, also just wanted to say that I don't want the 8-string to play the ultra de-tuned metal. The band I'm in that I want it for, Kickstart Chubby, is more of a funk/jazz Primus type of gig.
We're known for having the most strings in a 3-piece and a drummer with a very minimal kit.
Just a note.