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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-09-2005, 09:33 PM Thread Starter
 
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Question about floating trems and such

okay, ive heard steve vai, on his records use the floating bridge. i have one on my jackson, but i blocked it off because of constant string breakage, etc. i want to remove the tiny wooden bleock that i put in there, so i can raise pitches as well, but i don't want to constantly break strings. is there any way that i can fix this so i can use my floyd to go both ways, instead of just lower?
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-09-2005, 09:59 PM
 
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Re: about floating trems and such

We need to know why you are breaking strings. I have a Jackson with licensed Floyd and have not too many problems. Break the odd one now and again, but very rare. Maybe your strings aren't stretched enough or your divebombs are huge man. Something to note, the Jackson trem is not as hardy as the Ibanez Edge etc, but its good enough for basic whammy work. Can pull up maybe 2 or 3 intervals.
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post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-09-2005, 10:43 PM
 
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with the tremol-no you can block the trem wtihout a block of wood
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post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-10-2005, 02:09 AM
 
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sounds like there is pitting on the trem.is it any set string that brakes?i had a older trem that broke on the g alot so i filed it out alittle and it smoothed the edge for where the string comes over .and it has been great...
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We need to know why you are breaking strings. I have a Jackson with licensed Floyd and have not too many problems. Break the odd one now and again, but very rare. Maybe your strings aren't stretched enough or your divebombs are huge man. Something to note, the Jackson trem is not as hardy as the Ibanez Edge etc, but its good enough for basic whammy work. Can pull up maybe 2 or 3 intervals.
you know, those only happened when i first got it, when i was new to the sysytem. i think you maybe right on that one, cause i got the block of wood out last night, and no problems yet. how long should i let new strings stretch though? i also don't do huge dive bombs anymore. so i think you are right .
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post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-10-2005, 11:54 AM
 
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Stretch them until they no longer go out of tune when you bend a note 2 steps up.
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you know, those only happened when i first got it, when i was new to the sysytem. i think you maybe right on that one, cause i got the block of wood out last night, and no problems yet. how long should i let new strings stretch though? i also don't do huge dive bombs anymore. so i think you are right .

You should stretch them yourself, I do this till they no longer go out of tune *no other system works, just do it till they stop stretching* sometimes the guitar will be a little flat on a few strings the next day, but very rarely, and its done, you can change strings right before a show if you get used to it.
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post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-10-2005, 01:28 PM
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Odd, even when I owned my first floating trem, I never had this problem, and I used to go insane on it. But yeah, it's probably because you haven't stretched the strings properly, or the tension is too high. If the strings are stretched too fast, they will just break. You need to stretch them in slowly, by doing slow and big bends on the 12th fret on each string. Do 5 bends on each string at a time, lock the nut, do some dives, if it's out of tune, retune, and start the process again until you can dive a few times without going out of tune. Then the strings will be ready for trem torture!
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www.ibanezrules.com - all you will ever need to know about floating trems
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www.ibanezrules.com - all you will ever need to know about floating trems
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post #11 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-11-2005, 07:52 PM Thread Starter
 
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thanks guys. but i gotta check that site out later, im not really supposed to be on the computer right now. plus thatnks about the info for stretching the strings. i think that was alot of the problem also. i would change strings and lock it up right away, play it and hang it back up on the wall, without even thinking about that. on top of that, i was going crazy with the bar, which i think was another factor. next time i change a string, i gotta keep these things in mind. and to cover one more thing. isn't pitting just from using it alot, you know justplaying and with all the sweat and oils? cause if thats what its from, even though i play alot, the guitar itslef isn't even a year old yet.
anyways, better get started on some hw.
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