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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 03-21-2006, 01:32 PM Thread Starter
 
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Unhappy Am I the only one who feels RG5xx are equal to the quality and features of JEMs?

To me, there are only two physical advantages with the JEM;
1. Dunlop Frets
2. Slight Scallopping

Otherwise, Pickups are REALLY easy to cange.

It seems like the finish, the inlay, the monkey handle, and the lion's claw route cost about $1200.

I can't justify the difference.
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post #2 of 19 (permalink) Old 03-21-2006, 02:07 PM
 
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Re: Am I the only one who feels RG5xx are equal to the quality and features of JEMs?

Do a search, there are dozens of similar threads.
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Do a search, there are dozens of similar threads.
I'm sorry, but those threads just weren't that informative or recent. I guess I just like lively forums.

Once again, I'm sorry I ruined it for everybody.
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Re: Am I the only one who feels RG5xx are equal to the quality and features of JEMs?

here's one that has replies in it from just a few days ago

http://www.jemsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45288
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Re: Am I the only one who feels RG5xx are equal to the quality and features of JEMs?

In the beginning when I got my JEM I thought this JEM better than RG thing was maybe all in my head. Afterall I didn't wanna think that I spent a grand+ on a new guitar to replaced one (RG550) that plays just as good, although on paper it sure doesn't seem like it's very different.

However, after a year of playing a JEM I got honest with myself. The JEM is simply a better guitar for me. Better than any Ibanez I've ever touched. Why? I dunno it just is damn it.
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Re: Am I the only one who feels RG5xx are equal to the quality and features of JEMs?

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It seems like the finish, the inlay, the monkey handle, and the lion's claw route cost about $1200.
Good point, especially since the cost of aftermarket pickups, handle/claw routing, inlays, premium finishing, and [debatably,] the differential cost for supposedly better woods would rougly cost around $1200 if you have those things done professionally.

Hell, maybe some people want to pay a little extra for those features. It's their trip.
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Re: Am I the only one who feels RG5xx are equal to the quality and features of JEMs?

Yeah, if you think they're equal, you need to examine the fretboards again, especially the rosewood boards. Much nicer cuts of wood. Thicker necks for slightly better tone. Perfect all-around build quality.


Don't get me wrong, I love my 3 RG550s, amazing quality, but they'res more to a jem than a couple of holes in the body.
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Re: Am I the only one who feels RG5xx are equal to the quality and features of JEMs?

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Good point, especially since the cost of aftermarket pickups, handle/claw routing, inlays, premium finishing, and [debatably,] the differential cost for supposedly better woods would rougly cost around $1200 if you have those things done professionally.

Hell, maybe some people want to pay a little extra for those features. It's their trip.

+1

i own both. i have an '04 7VWH and a '90 777VBK. i have and haved owned too many RG's to list them. Jems are better on all points. RG's are nice but they aren't made to Jem specs. If you get into the J-Custom series you can start to compare the Jem series more reasonably.

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Re: Am I the only one who feels RG5xx are equal to the quality and features of JEMs?

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In the beginning when I got my JEM I thought this JEM better than RG thing was maybe all in my head. Afterall I didn't wanna think that I spent a grand+ on a new guitar to replaced one (RG550) that plays just as good, although on paper it sure doesn't seem like it's very different.

However, after a year of playing a JEM I got honest with myself. The JEM is simply a better guitar for me. Better than any Ibanez I've ever touched. Why? I dunno it just is damn it.
"Why? I dunno it just is damn it."

That's the best and most honest explanation I've heard yet.

Let's remember; if you want it to be the better guitar because it's more expensive and should be better, then you are more than half way to believing it.
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post #10 of 19 (permalink) Old 03-22-2006, 12:27 AM
 
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Re: Am I the only one who feels RG5xx are equal to the quality and features of JEMs?

If we're just talking basswood, Ive owned a '98 570, a '92 PMC and now i just got a '90 550... the 550 and the PMC are reaaaally close in sound and feel, the 570 sucked in comparison, i dunno, i guess i just prefer early, old ones, maybe its the old style neck joints...

now, if you ask me if the PMC was worth the price difference, id say "hell no!"... the 550 feels that f*ckin good!!
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Re: Am I the only one who feels RG5xx are equal to the quality and features of JEMs?

I agree that the JEM is a bit over priced. But the JEM is still higher quality. I can tell more care was put in making my JEM than my RG550. the RG550 seems more like a 'run of the mill' guitar but works fine. the wood and paint job on my JEM looks like better quality than on my RG, nicer grain pattern, even paint job. Everything else is practically the same.

The JEM neck is also very different from the RG wizard neck. that could be an advantage depending on which neck you like more.
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Re: Am I the only one who feels RG5xx are equal to the quality and features of JEMs?

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Yeah, if you think they're equal, you need to examine the fretboards again, especially the rosewood boards. Much nicer cuts of wood. Thicker necks for slightly better tone. Perfect all-around build quality.
The thicker neck is for feel, namely to suit Steve Vai. It has a fairly negligible effect on tone. I prefer the regular Wizard neck on a RG.
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Re: Am I the only one who feels RG5xx are equal to the quality and features of JEMs?

One would hope that the woods chosen for use in the Jems would be better quality tone woods than the RG550s due to the price difference, but who knows with Ibanez?
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post #14 of 19 (permalink) Old 03-22-2006, 01:25 PM
 
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Re: Am I the only one who feels RG5xx are equal to the quality and features of JEMs?

I reckon that's probably the case now for cost savings, but on the early guitars I think the same stock would be used for both...
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Re: Am I the only one who feels RG5xx are equal to the quality and features of JEMs?

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The thicker neck is for feel, namely to suit Steve Vai. It has a fairly negligible effect on tone. I prefer the regular Wizard neck on a RG.
Yeah, of course it was done to Steve Vai's preferences, thats a given. I didn't say that was the only reason they're thicker.


Your right, there is no tonal difference, but thicker necks will SUSTAIN better than the thin ones.
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