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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-27-2006, 02:26 PM Thread Starter
 
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Another veneer project - Jackson Kelly

Three different veneers on this one. Will either be cranberry with a black burst on the edges or a vintage sunburst.

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Where do you get the veneer? Is it the pressure sensitive kind? Normal glued and do you use a vacuum press?
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I get the veneer off evilbay. It is applied using a heat activated glue. The glue is similar to contact cement but becomes active when heat is applied. I lay the veneer on the surface of the guitar, cover it with a cloth and iron it on. No need for a vacuum press as I flatten the veneer prior to being glued and the iron/glue form an incredibly tight bond.

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Re: Another veneer project - Jackson Kelly

Nice! plan on doing something similar. it's not too hard is it?
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Check the tech section. I posted a partial how-to on applying a laminate.
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what glue are you using?
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thanks
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what glue are you using?
BetterBond Heat Lock
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Re: Another veneer project - Jackson Kelly

Awesome, congrats

btw, do a sunburst, a pretty subtle one, at that... it already looks beautiful as it is, why cover much up??
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Nice!

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mfergel, it looks like you are really having a good time with the laminates and Heat Lock. Very nice work. How is the combination of the two, when working on, say, the contoured portion of a stat top? I've have to imagine that the laminate will want to keep popping up, in that section, until you hit it with the iron. Once you DO hit it, in that area, do you have to maintain pressure on the laminate, until it cools? I'd love to do a few projects like this, and am just feeling out the job. And thanks, by the way, for not only showing us your cool projects, but introducing some of us to that glue. Looks like it really helps make easy work of things.
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Well, the problem you'd have with this process on a strat type body (curved edge) is that you'd have to sand the veneer to maintain the rounded edge. That means you'd be exposing glue, etc. For this type of process, you really need to have a guitar with a right angled edge, like an RG, Telecaster, Flying V, etc.

Like contact cement, the minute heat is applied, the bond is instant. You don't need to keep it held down for more than a second.

This glue is really one of the best choices....here's why. Contact cement doesn't really allow you to move/position it. If you even partially touch the two pieces, it's stuck. With white/wood glues, it causes the veneer to get moist/wet/ That causes warping unless you have 100% pressure on all areas until the glue is fully dry. Too much room for error in my opinion.

It is a bit of fun. With this Kelly, I'm really looking forward to seeing how it comes out with the stain/paint.
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Good Job man very inspiring. Thanks for the how to's
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Well, the problem you'd have with this process on a strat type body (curved edge) is that you'd have to sand the veneer to maintain the rounded edge. That means you'd be exposing glue, etc. For this type of process, you really need to have a guitar with a right angled edge, like an RG, Telecaster, Flying V, etc.
Not too much of a prob, as I could do a bit of a fade from the solid color on the sides, into the veneered top. I want to do a black flamed top, single hum guitar, with solid black sides and rear. I've seen other flametops have the same fade on the edges, to smooth the transitions, as well, unless I'm missing something, with your method.
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