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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-17-2006, 01:31 AM Thread Starter
 
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A/B Jem/RG Prestiege

Just got my Modded RG1570 with Evo's. I A/B the RG aginst my Jem7VWH with the same pickups. Results:

I have always been a skeptic of how much wood effects tone. IT DOES. The clean tone Jem is brighter and more twangy. Distortion is more mid/high driven.

The basswood RG is warmer and fuller sounding. I've heard people knock basswood but I think it sounds great(Ibanez's Japan basswood). Cleans are much warmer and the gain tone is thicker. Don't have the piercing highs.

Played through the same amp, both have the same trems and 500k pots. I was worried about having two guitars that sounded the same and was going to buy new pups. I'm not now, glad to save the money too.

I don't beleive one is necessarily better, it just depends on what your looking for.
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I have always been a skeptic of how much wood effects tone. IT DOES.
And I've always been a skeptic of how much string tension effects pitch....just busting your balls, but come on now.
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And I've always been a skeptic of how much string tension effects pitch....just busting your balls, but come on now.

dude he said how much, not straight out whether it's a change or not.

i too am sceptical about HOW MUCH effect wood has in comparison to say pick-ups or string gauge.
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dude he said how much, not straight out whether it's a change or not.

i too am sceptical about HOW MUCH effect wood has in comparison to say pick-ups or string gauge.
All your guitars are made of the same stuff tho. Once you have a good sit down with a few different guitars its pretty apparent, but like i always say it wont change nearly to the point that you wont recognize a pickup in different woods.
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I have always been a skeptic of how much wood effects tone. IT DOES. The clean tone Jem is brighter and more twangy. Distortion is more mid/high driven.

The basswood RG is warmer and fuller sounding. I've heard people knock basswood but I think it sounds great(Ibanez's Japan basswood). Cleans are much warmer and the gain tone is thicker. Don't have the piercing highs.
This should be expected. Because jem has more cavities at lions claw especially. Because, as Steve Vai noted in an interview, that region affects sound a lot. I think, while comparing between towo guitars with same type materials, that should be estimated, too.
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All your guitars are made of the same stuff tho. Once you have a good sit down with a few different guitars its pretty apparent, but like i always say it wont change nearly to the point that you wont recognize a pickup in different woods.
yeah i know all mine are made out of the same wood but at the moment thats pretty much the only wood ibanez make their guitars out of...hint hint
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Re: A/B Jem/RG Prestiege

There a plenty of mahogany Ibanez guitars.

Anyway, your probably right, it really doesn't make a differance. They'd probably make them out of plastic if wood wasn't so much cheaper.
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Re: A/B Jem/RG Prestiege

Try ten Jem7VWH and you will probably have the same difference between those as you have between the JEM and the Prestige now.

The type of wood donít makes as much difference as the density of the wood.
A heavy RG in basswood will sound way more different compared to a light RG basswood, then a light RG in basswood and a light RG in mahogany will do (they will sound about the same).

Not facts, just my opinion and something I have realised after trying loads of the same model at the same time.

Also another thing to think about when it comes to wood, no one in the world can say what wood a guitar is made of as soon as you put paint on it.

/Magnus
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Also another thing to think about when it comes to wood, no one in the world can say what wood a guitar is made of as soon as you put paint on it.

/Magnus

Until you pull the neck
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They'd probably make them out of plastic if wood wasn't so much cheaper.

I'll second that!
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Until you pull the neck
Yeah, that is true.

But I meant sound wise. That it is impossible to say what wood it is based on the sound from the guitar. I mean, you can take a guess, but never be sure.
If I would putt 50 guitars of different wood in a room, then I think no one could pick out and put all the mahogany, all the basswood and so on in different groups.
Unless they have read what the guitar is made of somewhere.

/Magnus
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And I've always been a skeptic of how much string tension effects pitch....just busting your balls, but come on now.
Thicker strings equals more tension at the same pitch.

Interesting subject though. And after having been around Magnus for some days, I know he knows.
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Thicker strings equals more tension at the same pitch.
....equals string tension effecting the pitch.
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