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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 09-23-2015, 10:34 PM Thread Starter
 
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I found a dt355 that looks to be in good nick and I've been dying for an old dt. Think I should snag it? It's under 500 USD.
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post #2 of 31 (permalink) Old 09-23-2015, 11:16 PM
 
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yup...d.m.
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Vintage greatness!
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IMO the body is too small on that. A bigger mahogany body with a hardtail will sound better and have greater sustain I think.
But it's about what you want so if you dig it go for it!
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I dunno, if I do a decent enough setup and get the action just right, I think it'll be fine. Also, I'm all about double locking trems so this will be fine. I'm sure it'll sustain better than my 1550 lol
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I say go for it, hard to go wrong with vintage ibanez
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I say go for it, hard to go wrong with vintage ibanez
It seems to be an 85, but I am curious about the pro rockr bridge because I've heard some negative things about it. What is your experience with it?
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I dunno, if I do a decent enough setup and get the action just right, I think it'll be fine. Also, I'm all about double locking trems so this will be fine. I'm sure it'll sustain better than my 1550 lol
That's probably true. Plus isn't the DT355 pre-Edge with more of a Kahler like trem? I've always wanted a DT555 Collen so I can see where you're coming form.
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That's probably true. Plus isn't the DT355 pre-Edge with more of a Kahler like trem? I've always wanted a DT555 Collen so I can see where you're coming form.
Yeah, it's the pro rockr, it looks like a kahler like bridge.

https://www.shimokura-webshop.com/pr...oduct_id=59972

Here's the ad on the website. Doesn't that star shape just make you feel all tingly on the inside?
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Another thing I'm concerned about is replacement parts for the Pro rocker. I've been doing research and there isn't a lot to be found for that old bridge.
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It really sounds like Pro Rocker is not easy to come by:

http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f21/ib...nt-117058.html

If it were new and there were no parts available, I could see (attached thread) putting in a Kahler, but on older stuff, it's always best to keep it original because it could be worth a lot more someday.

With so many older Ibanezes made with the Pro Rocker, you would think that there would be a lot of them on eBay.

I think the design of the locking nut behind the regular nut (like original Kahlers) was not a great idea, but at the time it was still better than regular Fender trems and Bigsby trems in terms of tuning stability. Eventually as you know it all went to a Floyd style locking nut but that makes the DT355 a collector's item from a certain era with old school locking nut.

If I got this guitar, being an older Ibanez with behind the nut locking nut, I would keep it 100% percent original because many guitars like these were changed over to be routed (by player or luthier) with Floyd style locking nuts. I did this to a guitar that had an old style Kahler and the Floyd locking nut worked way better.

I think without any routing on nut area, Floyd Rose has come up with a stable locking nut that attaches right to the top of the headstock and it only requires a couple of small screw holes.

That's the most I would do (and would do if I had to compare this to any modern double locking trem guitars) and it would make the DT355 much more stable and be a working guitar almost as stable as the Edge.

I am sure there's a nut width and shim that could make the current Gibson style Floyd Rose trem nut work, without digging out half the nut area to make a superstrat Floyd locking nut work.

https://reverb.com/item/920616-floyd...FQqSfgod0Y0A5w

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Here's the ad on the website. Doesn't that star shape just make you feel all tingly on the inside?
Yep you should totally get it, the neck joint looks really uncomfortable but who cares about that when you can be looking totally awesome playing that axe.
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Yep you should totally get it, the neck joint looks really uncomfortable but who cares about that when you can be looking totally awesome playing that axe.
Yeah, I thought the same thing

Exactly how rare is this shape?
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It really sounds like Pro Rocker is not easy to come by:

http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f21/ib...nt-117058.html

If it were new and there were no parts available, I could see (attached thread) putting in a Kahler, but on older stuff, it's always best to keep it original because it could be worth a lot more someday.

With so many older Ibanezes made with the Pro Rocker, you would think that there would be a lot of them on eBay.

I think the design of the locking nut behind the regular nut (like original Kahlers) was not a great idea, but at the time it was still better than regular Fender trems and Bigsby trems in terms of tuning stability. Eventually as you know it all went to a Floyd style locking nut but that makes the DT355 a collector's item from a certain era with old school locking nut.

If I got this guitar, being an older Ibanez with behind the nut locking nut, I would keep it 100% percent original because many guitars like these were changed over to be routed (by player or luthier) with Floyd style locking nuts. I did this to a guitar that had an old style Kahler and the Floyd locking nut worked way better.

I think without any routing on nut area, Floyd Rose has come up with a stable locking nut that attaches right to the top of the headstock and it only requires a couple of small screw holes.

That's the most I would do (and would do if I had to compare this to any modern double locking trem guitars) and it would make the DT355 much more stable and be a working guitar almost as stable as the Edge.

I am sure there's a nut width and shim that could make the current Gibson style Floyd Rose trem nut work, without digging out half the nut area to make a superstrat Floyd locking nut work.

https://reverb.com/item/920616-floyd...FQqSfgod0Y0A5w
But isn't it stable enough without routing a floyd rose locking nut? I'm not a big arm user, I play with it sometimes but I mostly do bends.
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But isn't it stable enough without routing a floyd rose locking nut? I'm not a big arm user, I play with it sometimes but I mostly do bends.
Just as it is with locking nut behind the regular nut, it should be OK for moderate use.

With the really heavy Steve Vai type bombing, the one piece Floyd locking nut (also now used on most Kahlers) is the only way to go.

https://reverb.com/item/1045657-floy...FRNrfgodYOYOvA
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