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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 09-24-2009, 05:41 PM Thread Starter
 
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Cleaning/oiling fretboard - how to with strings ON?

Cleaning/oiling fretboard - how to with strings ON?

I recently bought a new Ibanez (RG2570Z) and unless my memory is failing me, I recall the manual saying to change strings one at a time to help neck/tuning stability.

Does that sounds right? Reasons I aks is that I was about to clean the frets/fretboard and then apply some Fret Doctor. Obviously that would be easier to do if all the strings were off but I do not want to compromise my current action.

Any suggestions or comments on this? thanks
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Cleaning/oiling fretboard - how to with strings ON?

I recently bought a new Ibanez (RG2570Z) and unless my memory is failing me, I recall the manual saying to change strings one at a time to help neck/tuning stability.

Does that sounds right? Reasons I aks is that I was about to clean the frets/fretboard and then apply some Fret Doctor. Obviously that would be easier to do if all the strings were off but I do not want to compromise my current action.

Any suggestions or comments on this? thanks
You can't really clean the fingerboard (well) unless you take all the strings off and while you can oil it with the strings on, it's a bit of a pain in the butt and you will (obviously) get oil all over your strings.

You won't hurt the neck in anyway by taking all the strings off for a short period (e.g. not years and year) of time. Will the neck flex a little when you take the strings off? Yes but it will also go re-flex when you put the strings back on.

In regards to tuning, it will be easier to get the guitar back in tune if you block the bridge (underneath the fine tuners) before you take all the strings off.
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post #3 of 16 (permalink) Old 09-24-2009, 09:56 PM
 
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Re: Cleaning/oiling fretboard - how to with strings ON?

1. Block the trem
2. Loosen all your strings until they are flabby.
3. Stick wood dowel underneath 1st fret.

Presto!
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Re: Cleaning/oiling fretboard - how to with strings ON?

I'd like to add that I left an old Gibson Les Paul Studio in a shed without strings on for OVER A YEAR (consider the wildly varying temperatures and humidity levels in the UK), and it didn't do it any harm whatsoever. Still has an action a smidge over 1/16th.

Now there is obviously an argument that the neck was a plank anyway so it doesn't matter, and an Ibby neck is obviously a bit more fragile, but you get my point.
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Re: Cleaning/oiling fretboard - how to with strings ON?

To really do a good job to clean and treat your fretboard, I don't see anyway that you can do it without the strings off.

With the strings on, you can apply oil to the fretboard and wipe off but it doesn't clean as effective.

I occasionally use Ernie Ball Fretboard Conditioner on my guitars and then wipe off, or apply some Lemon Oil to a cloth and wipe on to the fretboard underneath the strings.

But it really isn't as effective as removing the strings.
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Re: Cleaning/oiling fretboard - how to with strings ON?

Yes, according to ibanez, it's best to change strings one at a time. This is correct, however it's also about the most impractical process in the world. How do you clean and oil your neck? How do you clean the dust and grime from between the pickups? You can't. The idea is that if you take the strings off all at once, there will be no tension on the bridge and it'll be a bit of a pain in the ass to get the guitar back in tune. It'll take you about 10 minutes atleast to get it stable again. However, if you just throw a 9v battery into the trem cavity so that the bridge is resting on the battery, this will keep your trem steady while you remove all the strings and do some housekeeping.
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post #7 of 16 (permalink) Old 09-28-2009, 01:05 PM
 
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Re: Cleaning/oiling fretboard - how to with strings ON?

Cant you just loosen the strings, undo the springs on the trem. Remove the whole bridge (inc strings) clean then replace trem. I think the main reason Ibanez say to do it 1 by 1 is less neck stress, more time saved when tuning!
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Cant you just loosen the strings, undo the springs on the trem. Remove the whole bridge (inc strings) clean then replace trem. I think the main reason Ibanez say to do it 1 by 1 is less neck stress, more time saved when tuning!
It's not so much about neck stress, it's about the time it'll take you to tune if you take the strings off all at once. By removing the bridge from the body, it's going to be an equally large pain in the ass to get yourself back in tune. Plus, you'll have to reinstall the trem.
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It's not so much about neck stress, it's about the time it'll take you to tune if you take the strings off all at once. By removing the bridge from the body, it's going to be an equally large pain in the ass to get yourself back in tune. Plus, you'll have to reinstall the trem.
assuming that the springs are in the same formation, and the strings are the same, then you should be pretty much there when you tune each string to the original tuning. It won't take 15 minutes like if you took all the strings off.

In theory at least.
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In theory at least.
It works perfectly in real life as well, I always clean the fretboard that way:

Put it all back as it was and you're back in tune.

You can also undo the locking nut, if you've done that:

This is a bit more risky, as the posts may unwind by themselves slightly. But it does work.
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Re: Cleaning/oiling fretboard - how to with strings ON?

I have also wondered if oiling the neck with the strings on will deaden the strings? I used to do this all the time and never had a problem. Just wondering, because I like to keep the rosewood necks moist...
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Re: Cleaning/oiling fretboard - how to with strings ON?

every time i restring (every 2-4 weeks) i block the trem and give the fretboard a good scrub. i just put a schweppes bottle lid under the trem (i have an EZ trem) and it keeps it almost 100% proper level. take off all the strings and have it.

so easy.
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I have also wondered if oiling the neck with the strings on will deaden the strings? I used to do this all the time and never had a problem. Just wondering, because I like to keep the rosewood necks moist...

It would probably make the strings a bit oily but that's about it!
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It would probably make the strings a bit oily but that's about it!
every time after i play these days for a long period i run my finger along the whole string and get all the dirt off. helps you know.
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