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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 02-25-2008, 06:46 PM Thread Starter
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Talking Custom Paduak RG (very long post!!!!!!!!!)

Finally it is nearly finished!!!!!

I started this project about 3 years ago. After much work, **** ups, hold ups, the birth of a child and 2 career changes I am nearing the end. I have mentioned this project in a few threads, particularly in discussions about tomewood and I feel that at this stage it has answered some questions that I had, and it is worth sharing. If you can't be bothered to read it all then just skip to the conclusion at the end

The Specs:

Body: Paduak;2 piece, danish oil finish, that's it.

Neck: RG 470L modified to fit right handed body (this was previously used on my swirl custom (search for rg swirl custom, it's here somewhere), so 24 fret etc etc. The neck has been scalloped from 13-24.

Bridge: Schaller FR 2

PU: Neck - Evo; Bridge - SD Dimebucker. The switching is very simple with only one pu working at a time.

Other stuff: One volume knob (skull shaped), no tone, pu switching is a tap control on the volme knob (not push pull).

The Philosophy:

I have had customs built before, but this time I wanted to do the building. I wanted to make the body and neck, although due to time constraints I have just built the body, with considerable help from Steve (see below) without whom the guitar would have been a total failure.

The more guitars I buy and build, I realise that really we are forced into a lot of compromises. You never know what a tonewood will sound like until you try it, and after reading much discussion (mostly on Jemsite) I decided that I wanted to try and build something with no compromise (or less anyway!) .........I wanted to build something that had a tone I was totally happy with. I didn't want the flappy bottom end of mahogany/maple and I certainly didn't want the shrillness of other woods (this is a broad generalisation of all the threads I have read, please don't flame me).

I settled on Paduak. Principally because I read somewhere on Jemsite that it has the tone of the gods, partly because Nuno Bettencourt plays them, and also because you can't buy it off the shelf and you ought to expand your horizons, particularly when doing something new.

Once I realised that I didn't have time or expertise enough to finish a neck at present I decided to fit the best neck I had (which I was basing the hand built neck on anyway, and so I was sure it would fit the body). All customs should be reverse headstock as well.

I pretty much use Schaller bridges on all my customs because they are good and they are available. I don't really need any more reason than that.

The electronics were born out of several discussions with my guitar tech. I chose the Evo neck because I really like the transparency and volume and I wanted to put in something I knew and liked already, and that many people could reference. I chose the Dime bag because it is basically the same specs as a Bill Lawrence L500xl, and I couldn't get one of those easily. We decided to go without a tone control to try and keep the electronics as clean and pure as possible. We selected the tap switch on the volume pot because I like the idea of push/pull put I thought it would be easier to just to slap the thing and have it change the pu rather than pull or select from a concentional toggle switch. Once we decided on one volume pot and a tap switch, then we couldn't do much else other than a H/H switching configuration. Plus it is just more metal that way, and I have 14 guitars, so I got plenty of PU combinations at home already. I actually like the simplicity, I really do.

The Process:

Body blanks were glued and then rough shaping was done with a bandsaw. The body was then "thicknessed" using a belt sander. More sanding was done with an orbital, and by hand.

At this point the glue line started to split in a couple of places and it had to be reclamped (this is where you see the first pics in the link I posted)

Profiling was done mostly by hand. I then got a "robo-sander" to do the edges of the body and also some of the extra profiling around the neck joint and cutaways. I did the initial routing for the neck and trem, but made a pigs ear of the later and handed the rest of the routing over to Steve Wright at PJ's guitar centre in Portsmouth (UK). I have mentioned before that Steve is fantastic, and he did not disappoint this time either.

The guitar came back to me for the finish and was then returned to Steve to finish the build. To be honest I applied way too much oil, and really feel the the finish is pretty poor. That is where we are with the last of the picutres in the link.

What's Next???:

Unfortunately the glue line started to move again in the same place and the guitar had to be stripped down and re-glued. This time I removed all the finish and sanded back to bare wood, then carefully applied a very sparing amount of oil. It looks fantastic and is due to go into the shop for a rebuild this weekend.

Watch this space for new pics. It looks about 10 times better with the new finish!

The Result/Conclusions:


I can honestly say that I have never played a guitar that sounds this good. It actually makes me sound better. The heavy dense wood controls the excesses of the PU's and allows them to give their true voice without becoming too shrill or too flabby. The really surprising thing is just how good the clean sound is. It is clear and full of a richness that is unusual to find in a bolt on neck guitar. Distorted, it is powerful yet focused. It is not over the top at all. It screams rather than squeals! Take that into account with the clarity from those pickups and the tone of the wood, and that really is an unbeatable combination. My only slight concern is that the Evo is a bit dark, but that is what they sound like in any body.


It plays great. I can, for the first time, get ZW like forced harmonics. We have all played Ibanez neck so I needn't belabour that to much, but scalloping really helps you get hold of the string and ring the note out.


I love it, but it isn't a WOW guitar, more somethingto look at and appreciate how it changes in different lighting. Revese headstock and skulll knob make it transcend cool.

I am happy I built it, I would build another (the wood is truly horrible to work with so that does mean something). I would sell most of my other guitars after playing this, and I wouldn't sell this to anyone else. That is all I can say.
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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 02-25-2008, 07:57 PM
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Re: Custom Paduak RG (very long post!!!!!!!!!)

Looks great. I love natural wood. Love.
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Yep, tone of the gods indeed I love paduak guitars!
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Re: Custom Paduak RG (very long post!!!!!!!!!)

I can see why guitar companies don't use a lot of it. It is nasty to work with.

The weight is also a bit of an issue as well. I installed straplocks stright away because I know that a normal strp would fail eventually, and it would do damage whenever it fell.
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Re: Custom Paduak RG (very long post!!!!!!!!!)

hey nick, congrats on finishing it at last. i also finished my paduak rg. body was done by jim donahue and the neck (paduak w/ pau ferro fretboard) was done by warmoth. h-h, 5 way selector, volume knob only and fixed bridge. i'll post pics when i get home.
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That looks really nice. Can't wait to see it finished!
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I've always dug the paduak N4's, so naturally I like this too.

Nice job.
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Re: Custom Paduak RG (very long post!!!!!!!!!)

What do you mean its not a "WOW" guitar? My jaw droped! Its a brillant looking axe!
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Re: Custom Paduak RG (very long post!!!!!!!!!)

Originally Posted by ibz_SA View Post
What do you mean its not a "WOW" guitar? My jaw droped! Its a brillant looking axe!
Wait till you see it refinished. I used a lot less oil andit really comes through. Plus Padauk oxidises over a few days, so I hope by oiling immediately after sanding I have managed to keep some of the orange in the wood.
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here's mine!

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Re: Custom Paduak RG (very long post!!!!!!!!!)

Both of those are nice. Those are the first paduak RG's I've ever seen.

I've come close to nabbing an N4 Washburn in paduak a couple times but never have...yet
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That one is gorgeous!
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Re: Custom Paduak RG (very long post!!!!!!!!!)

Rastachild, that is stunning, I bet it is a tone demon.

Well I got mine back from the shop today after a refinish and rebuild.

Pics to follow
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