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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 07-30-2014, 05:30 PM Thread Starter
 
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Is it difficult to transition back and forth between 6 and 7 string??

I was just wondering, from a technique standpoint, once you get used to playing 7 string does it feel weird to go back to 6 string and vice versa, or is it just like you can switch modes almost as if playing two different instruments?
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Re: Is it difficult to transition back and forth between 6 and 7 string??

Initially I found 6>7 an easy transition, but 7>6 mid set threw me a bit, but these days the transition either way doesn't cause me any problems. Like everything, it is practice and experience.
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Re: Is it difficult to transition back and forth between 6 and 7 string??

At first it took some getting use to. But after awhile the transition is almost seamless.

However, I've found that how easily you adapt greatly depends on where you take your point of reference from. If your point of reference is the low E, then it'll take a bit extra time to get use to moving away from that reference (cause the low B's in the way).

When I got my first seven the first thing I did was play every single 6 string song I know on the 7, and ignore the low B.

After that, everything was good, and I started to incorporate the low B, and learn some actual 7 string songs written for 7 strings. Now I go back and forth without thinking. But whenever I'm on a 6 I miss the lower register.
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Initially I found 6>7 an easy transition, but 7>6 mid set threw me a bit, but these days the transition either way doesn't cause me any problems. Like everything, it is practice and experience.
How about the wider neck, do you find that makes it significantly harder to make big stretches?
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When I got my first seven the first thing I did was play every single 6 string song I know on the 7, and ignore the low B.

After that, everything was good, and I started to incorporate the low B, and learn some actual 7 string songs written for 7 strings. Now I go back and forth without thinking. But whenever I'm on a 6 I miss the lower register.
That's a neat idea for approaching it, I'll definitely bear that in mind, thanks.
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How about the wider neck, do you find that makes it significantly harder to make big stretches?
Nope, though it does discourage me from hooking my thumb over the neck.
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How about the wider neck, do you find that makes it significantly harder to make big stretches?
Nope, doesn't make a difference with big stretches.

The thing to look out for with 7 string necks are the "shoulders" of the neck. The back, where it starts to curve from the fret board and around.

Universe neck's have large shoulders, so they feel wide. Thank a hard "D" shape, where the flat bit is the fret board.

Some 7 string guitars have a C shape, where the C is the back of the neck. Soft shoulders (because the neck starts to curve around sooner...essentially the neck is thinner at the "shoulders"). These feel much smaller in the hand, in my experience.
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Nope, doesn't make a difference with big stretches.

The thing to look out for with 7 string necks are the "shoulders" of the neck. The back, where it starts to curve from the fret board and around.

Universe neck's have large shoulders, so they feel wide. Thank a hard "D" shape, where the flat bit is the fret board.

Some 7 string guitars have a C shape, where the C is the back of the neck. Soft shoulders (because the neck starts to curve around sooner...essentially the neck is thinner at the "shoulders"). These feel much smaller in the hand, in my experience.
Aah, that's interesting. Do you know in what way the shape of the neck affects the tone of the guitar?
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Initially I found 6>7 an easy transition, but 7>6 mid set threw me a bit, but these days the transition either way doesn't cause me any problems. Like everything, it is practice and experience.
Same here. I played 6 for about 15 years, then I finally got myself a 7, and played it exclusively for about 6 years. When I went back to the 6, I felt "naked" and anxious. After some time of practicing both, I can now switch nicely between them. Very different instruments for sure.


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The thing to look out for with 7 string necks are the "shoulders" of the neck. The back, where it starts to curve from the fret board and around.

Universe neck's have large shoulders, so they feel wide. Thank a hard "D" shape, where the flat bit is the fret board.

Some 7 string guitars have a C shape, where the C is the back of the neck. Soft shoulders (because the neck starts to curve around sooner...essentially the neck is thinner at the "shoulders"). These feel much smaller in the hand, in my experience.
This is absolutely correct, and I'm feeling this right now. As I said above, I played an UV7BK for 6 years (large neck shoulders), and now I'm playing a Music Man JP6 (small neck shoulders). Man... the JP6 neck feels like a toy in my hand.
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Universe neck's have large shoulders, so they feel wide. Thank a hard "D" shape, where the flat bit is the fret board.
Depends on which era. My UV7PWH has a very thin flat profile neck, whereas my UV777BK is just as you describe.
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Re: Is it difficult to transition back and forth between 6 and 7 string??

Am going to say for me moving from 7 to 6 Swerd me up. I had to tune the 6 into a Seven string set up.
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Re: Is it difficult to transition back and forth between 6 and 7 string??

6 to 7 wasn't too bad for me. 7 back to 6 was awesome, i felt like i could totally dominate the 6.

7 to 8 messes me up. 8 to 6 is amazing. I recommend everyone get a cheap 8 string if for nothing more than doing left hand workouts.
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Re: Is it difficult to transition back and forth between 6 and 7 string??

I only own 7's. So if there's a 6-string song I want to cover, I just play it on a 7. As a result, whenever I pick up a 6 string I'm totally lost. It's incredibly awkward for me, as my point of reference is all thrown off.
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Re: Is it difficult to transition back and forth between 6 and 7 string??

Haha going from 8 back to 6 is like a high for your left hand- it feels so small and it feels like you can do anything. Maybe it had to do with stretching in a way you can't usually do before playing.
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I only own 7's. So if there's a 6-string song I want to cover, I just play it on a 7. As a result, whenever I pick up a 6 string I'm totally lost. It's incredibly awkward for me, as my point of reference is all thrown off.
That's exactly how I feel when I go to 7s from 6. I don't dislike them, just haven't yet become one with it.
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