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post #1 of 38 (permalink) Old 06-02-2010, 07:45 AM Thread Starter
 
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dimarzio/ibz pickups from Shenzhen , China?

hi guys, also acquired a rg350m ye recently.

and yes, dun quite like the inf pickups..so went to the ee**** and check things out. as budget limited , dimarzios seems out of the equation, thus looking at the dimarzio/ibz ones and bought a set and they were shipped out of CHINA.

it came with the single coil not working and the packaging stuck to the pickups. and while trying to remove the the packaging, the surface of the pickups started to peel as well, leaving a dull surface and with the letterings coming off altogether.

so i approached the seller, and question about the set..
it struck me that something's not quite logical..
the prestiges are manufacture in Japan, the pickups are in USA , how can the pickups ended up in China, Shenzhen and the seller claim they are NEW and genuine??

any thots about this guys?
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post #2 of 38 (permalink) Old 06-02-2010, 01:57 PM
 
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Re: dimarzio/ibz pickups from Shenzhen , China?

Need pics, I doubt Dimarzio is making product in China but there are less expensive stock pickups with brass baseplates and triangle shaped feet. That doesn't mean he's getting them from China, but it means someone could be making forgeries. The old (first generation) Stewmac Golden Age humbuckers looked like Dimarzios.

They also could have been excess inventory liquidated from either Japan or Dimarzio to someone and eventually wound up there. I believe the Dimarzio/IBZ product went to Korean guitars, and then perhaps Indonesian guitars, so they didn't have to come from Japan. Some Korean factories have sold off Seymour Duncan pickups that were bought for OEM guitars, but those only were sold INSIDE Korea to guitar stores.
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post #3 of 38 (permalink) Old 06-03-2010, 03:27 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: dimarzio/ibz pickups from Shenzhen , China?

pickups.jpg

thanks for the tips dude..as u can see, there's all the "Made in USA" prints..but the surface is peeling off!
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Re: dimarzio/ibz pickups from Shenzhen , China?

thats not just that protective clear film that they put on pickups to protect them during shipping and guitar store abuse?
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Re: dimarzio/ibz pickups from Shenzhen , China?

thot so initially, but as i try to scrap them (the protective clear film) off, the "Dimarzio/Ibz" wordings also start to go with it..does the letters get scrapped off easily on the prestiges?

even it is , still, not sure how can they get many sets new in China?
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Re: dimarzio/ibz pickups from Shenzhen , China?

if you think fitting those pups are going to improve your tone,your in for a shock.i think the inf pups in the rg350 is ok,better than ibanez/dimarzio pups.
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if you think fitting those pups are going to improve your tone,your in for a shock.i think the inf pups in the rg350 is ok,better than ibanez/dimarzio pups.
I AGREE!! INF's are better IMO.

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Oooops

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Oooops
yes...oooopps.
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post #10 of 38 (permalink) Old 06-03-2010, 09:04 AM
 
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Re: dimarzio/ibz pickups from Shenzhen , China?

Those pickups are OEM. Did you buy them second hand?
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Those pickups are OEM. Did you buy them second hand?
hi Redtiger
nope.the seller claim it's new. in fact the leads are not soldered.
OEM as in manufactured in China?
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Re: dimarzio/ibz pickups from Shenzhen , China?

That's... Weird. I don't see why someone would counterfeit cheap pickups. Either way, sorry you got a crappy deal what with the damage to them n all.
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post #13 of 38 (permalink) Old 06-04-2010, 12:33 AM
 
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I would wipe them down with Naptha. They clearly do NOT look fake, but the shiny stuff on top is tape gum residue from protective stuff they put on top of the pickups to protect them from scratches in transit and when the guitar is built and in the store. It looks like they either got hot, or the tape residue was of poor quality and broke down. It's also possible that tape residue is why they ended up in China. If the tape residue got sticky on the pickups, then Ibanez couldn't use them, and they could have liquidated them. Or it happened while the pickups were still at Dimarzio and they liquidated them. Or it happened at Ibanez, they returned them to Dimarzio, and Dimarzio liquidated them. If I suggest that Dimarzio liquidated 2nd quality pickups, that could be construed as a negative toward Dimarzio, and I don't mean that, and I truly do think it was Ibanez, or Cor-Tek in Korea that liquidated them. Cor-Tek's Korean factory closed about a year or two ago with short notice, and they moved all production to Indonesia. It's entirely possible Cor-Tek liquidated these.

We have heard reports of "some" Korean guitar builder that would sell our pickups (USA made Seymour Duncan and/or Korean made Duncan Designed) through dealerships if they ordered too many.

There is one thing I would add to this. The single coil does not look like a USA-made Dimarzio. I would have to see a photo of the bottom of it to tell for sure. The way there are notches in the bottom near where the eyelets would be looks more like Ibanez' stock Japanese plastic bobbin. From the bottom, if it's a stock Japanese single coil bobbin it will have square holes in between each of the pole pieces, very easy to see. Also I do not remember Dimarzio single coil pole pieces being that flat against the covers. They usually have some stagger to them and are raised above the cover. But I'm not an expert on current Dimarzio single coil production. If anyone from Dimarzio is reading, how am I doing?
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Re: dimarzio/ibz pickups from Shenzhen , China?

when i replaced ibanez/dimarzio pups in a rg2550z i had the luthier asked what do you want me to do with ibanez/dimarzio.i told him to put them in the bin or keep em
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Re: dimarzio/ibz pickups from Shenzhen , China?

DiMarzio/IBZ pickups are generic at best and I wouldn't have bought them as replacement pickups, but they're in no way worse than Infinity pickups.
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